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The link here appears to be broken. Here is the correct one, fyi @dang https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/isps-cant-find-a...
The link doesn't go anywhere FYI. What are people here even commenting on?
As IMcD23 commented, the real link is here: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/isps-cant-find-a... It would be nice if the mods/dang would update the link.
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>Customers are pulling that data and those customers, by definition, are already paying for the bandwidth Downloading bandwidth is free. The person who is uploading is the person who pays.
You might get that deal on a server, but not a mobile or broadband contract. Now that I think of it, I don't know whether my capped mobile usage counts uploads towards my contracted limits. I assume it does.
> California's net neutrality law is similar to the federal rules repealed under former FCC Chairman Ajit Pai. California prohibits ISPs from blocking or throttling lawful traffic. It also prohibits requiring fees from websites or online services to deliver or prioritize their traffic to consumers, bans paid data cap exemptions (so-called "zero-rating"), and says that ISPs may not attempt to evade net neutrality prot…
The primary beneficiaries of this are basically Netflix and Google, no? My understanding is most of these policies have always been targeted at the large streaming services that are putting the most burden on the networks and who often already have special interconnect agreements. The claims that these policies would be aimed at small businesses seem largely to have not been realistic. The whole situation with lying…
When this arose, it was partly a lever to make their own offerings more attractive.
Turns out they mostly sucked at those offerings and have shut down or spun them off so it's less urgent right now, but don't assume it won't happen again!
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Telekom already does this for a very long time, at least in Germany. see for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10645577
Have there been no attempts in Germany at introducing net neutrality? Also, does the ISP who wrote that linked article, Hetzner, still support net neutrality? I can't find anything else in English about it since the linked article from 2015 (archive [1], and new link [2]), but maybe that's because other content hasn't been translated. > Hetzner Online stands for high-performance and high capacity Internet. In the las…
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I've been asking this exact question for years. I feel like most people got some well-meaning propaganda on this and see net neutrality as an anti-censorship thing (which, hooray for anti-censorship) without thinking through all the totally reasonable and useful things that would violate the letter of it.
I don’t fully understand how anti-censorship is a virtue when defending Google and Netflix but then becomes a vice when defending regular people’s ability to not be arbitrarily banned on Twitter.
Can someone explain a technical issue I see with net neutrality? From a network engineering perspective, it seems sensible to me that CDN servers are located as close as possible to end users. So I assume that implies residing in whatever data centers the ISPs use at their edge. Is there some way to get the networking-efficiency benefits of those colo arrangements while still having net neutrality?
I've been asking this exact question for years. I feel like most people got some well-meaning propaganda on this and see net neutrality as an anti-censorship thing (which, hooray for anti-censorship) without thinking through all the totally reasonable and useful things that would violate the letter of it.
What does throttling traffic or charging customers different amounts for different sites have to do with whether the CDN machine will lower network operating costs?
(Other than that the law makes it clear ISP's can't run a over congested line to the backbone in hopes of artifically forcing CDN deals.)
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The primary beneficiaries of this are basically Netflix and Google, no? My understanding is most of these policies have always been targeted at the large streaming services that are putting the most burden on the networks and who often already have special interconnect agreements. The claims that these policies would be aimed at small businesses seem largely to have not been realistic. The whole situation with lying…
> My understanding is most of these policies have always been targeted at the large streaming services that are putting the most burden on the networks and who often already have special interconnect agreements. "large streaming services that are putting the most burden on the networks"? That is completely non-sensical. It is not streaming services that are creating a burden, it is the ISP's customers . The ISP's cus…