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Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

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Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#41

Post by prakash »

iamelgringo wrote: post #34

This is our site, if we want more hacker news and less reddit, follow the new page and consistently vote up geeky articles. The site has thousands of page views every single day, but the top stories routinely get less than 100 votes. The moral of the story: submit good articles and vote up on them. The ratio of voters to lurkers is probably from 1:100 to 1:300. Your votes count. The only way to avoid having an Eterna…

I constantly check the new page to vote up & flag items. As some other have posted, more people should vote up.

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#42

Post by prakash »

ivankirigin wrote: post #8

Asking others to vote differently and submit different content is lame. It's like complaining about getting down modded. If you want better content, submit it yourself and upmod it on the new page.

If you want better content, submit it yourself and upmod it on the new page.

I do that pretty much everyday.

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#43

Post by _b8r0 »

Shameless plug for my site but might be relevant here:

http://news.mandalorian.com

Another slinkset I've come across that might be useful is http://www.justhackit.com

Maybe we need dedicated sites for politics and economics.

I like the principle of Hacker News, but think that with the ties to ycombinator there is an entrepeneurial element that whilst related doesn't strictly go with the hacker element in all cases.

Thankfully unlike Reddit this place hasn't turned into 4chan, complete with old memes.

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#44

Post by edw519 » 

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I'm visiting hn about 10% as often as I used to, but I didn't want to be one of those "not hn" complainers.

Can we please have the real hn back? I miss it so much.

(Please, let's talk more about programming, less about everything else.)

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#45

Post by prakash »

edw519 wrote: post #44

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You are welcome :-)

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#46

Post by robg »

jon_dahl wrote: post #40
robg wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In almost 600 days, it hasn't happened yet. Even as this worry has been constant, I have seen little to no evidence of this shift. So how long before we can can the incessant worry? Another 600 days, perhaps?

I've definitely seen a gradual shift in the last 600 days. If the shift continues gradually, then yes, this site may be Reddit-lite in 600 days. If the shift accelerates, it could happen sooner than that.

Problem is, of course, this election is huge news. Considering that, are even one in a hundred posts here touching on those issues? What was it last year at this time, one in two hundred posts? That's a difference of 1% vs. .5% of submissions. Frankly, I highly doubt that 1 in 100 posts, right now, touch politics unless your view of politics is so jaded that it infects things like economic collapses.

There may be a shift, but if those numbers are accurate (and I think they're conservative) we're seeing an over reaction to a very minor issue.

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#47

Post by robg »

ashleyw wrote: post #37

I kinda agree with the politics. It seems HN users like US politics, thats fine. But as a guess I'm sure most like p0rn too, it doesn't mean HN should be full of it... (OK thats a pretty bad example, but you get what I mean...)

This election is huge. Considering that, I'm actually surprised there haven't been more posts relating to it. If anything, the community does very well in ferreting them out.

Business and economics, I'd argue belong front and center.

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#48

Post by Jem »

robg wrote: post #26
eru wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it may seem lame it's entirely within the system. Voicing your opinion with a comment/submission is as acceptable as up and down voting - as far as I am concerned. Though I do not like to read complaints that much, either.

Actually, it's not supposed to be in the system: Please don't submit comments complaining that a submission is inappropriate for the site. If you think something is spam or egregiously offtopic, you can flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Please don't submit comments complaining that a submission is inappropriate for the site

Isn't that exactly what you're doing too, though?

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#49

Post by robg »

prakash wrote: post #36
robg wrote: post #24

On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it…

I have been flaging things like crazy. People just ignore flagging off-topic submission, the same way people don't upmod enough.

I don't see any reason why you should be flagging like crazy. These posts aren't so ubiquitous as to be over running the site.

Unless you're not using the definition of "off-topic" in the guidelines?

Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

I rarely see posts that meet that criteria.

Re: Pleading with YC: Enough with the political & financial news. More Hacker News please.

#50

Post by aslkjdf »

If you followed digg as close as I did from 05-07 and saw what happened you would feel the same way as the parent. Current HN was digg in early 05/06. Now look at it. It went from articles on computer science/tech at UW/google research/stanford/MSR to MSN/college humor in what seems like a flash because people flocked towards what was popularized instead of technical. I took solace in the fact there was a tech section but all those articles lost any sort of insight because the community fell apart. I recall reading explanations and watching videos about the internals of Map Reduce/GFS/Big Table soon after they were released for publication. Videos from the core kernel development team at MSR (check channel9). Understanding how Microsoft managed their software development teams from people at MS. How to ace alot of algorithm questions at interviews (mapping mazes,sorting,etc). All from digg. I recall having a brief discussion with a person at slashdot about this. I asked them if they were concerned about what digg was doing and if he thought it was the new paradigm. He didnt flinch one bit. Since slashdot was old it had been through this before. It knew that topics would quickly swerve towards "popsugar" type articles real quick. They knew need they needed editorial control and thats why slashdot is still around and kicking. I dont want to be a control freak, I just love HN and try and keep on top of the sources used!

Disclaimer: I commented on this last night in another thread in my defense for being called a sock puppet for voicing my opinion like the parent. But this comment is very relevant here.

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