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Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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Congrats on launching! I just want to vent about something bank-related, and hopefully bait someone to tell me how this solves it. Or something else solves it. Have you ever heard how you could pay off your mortgage a lot quicker by making bi-weekly payments instead of monthly? Or how you can include extra with your payment and instruct your bank to apply it directly to the premium, helping you reduce your interest?…

It all depends on who services your mortgage. In my case, the credit onion asked what to do with overpayments (because they also asked if I wanted to round up the payment to make it a whole dollar amount).

Some banks aren't setup to handle this correctly, and do weird things with a bimonthly payment. They get a payment on the 1st, but it's not the full amount due, so they apply the entire payment to principle. Then they get another payment on the 15th, and since it's not the full amount due, they apply it to principle again, and then they complain that you didn't pay your mortgage, you point out they're dumb, and they have someone go torture the computer until the late fee is gone.

And then this happens every single time and so the bank gives up and just applies all payments to "amounts due".

Older banks are quite susceptible to this. You can solve this because the "lot quicker" isn't really because of early payments, it's because there are 12 months in a year but 26 biweekly payments, which means you make a 13th mortgage payment; so just do one principle payment or increase your monthly payment by 10% or so.

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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Tacking onto this question, does anyone have recommendations for US banks that have API access and allow personal use? I've come across a couple companies such as Mercury but they're only for business use.

I've resorted to writing a service that can initiate transfers and retrieve transactions for a smaller US bank. I really just want a bank account with an API, that would be so, so nice.

That was the promise with Simple (which they promptly abandoned), it's the main reason I signed up with them in the first place.

You can get away with something like Plaid if you just want data but for actually making moves you'd need something else.

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

#63

Congrats on launching! I just want to vent about something bank-related, and hopefully bait someone to tell me how this solves it. Or something else solves it. Have you ever heard how you could pay off your mortgage a lot quicker by making bi-weekly payments instead of monthly? Or how you can include extra with your payment and instruct your bank to apply it directly to the premium, helping you reduce your interest?…

An interesting thing I heard is that is not so convenient to pay off the mortgage earlier. Mortgages are debt with 1-3% per year. You could take the money you already have and put it in an ETF covering the whole market which kept for a long time (10 years) in average will return you 5-8% per year. I also had the instinct of paying off the mortgage faster if I could until they explained me that. Never had chance to do…

Or even throw it in a Series I risk-free savings bond paying 8%.

[edit] I'm not an expert but explained why I wouldn't do that personally in a peer to your reply.

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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Congrats on launching! I just want to vent about something bank-related, and hopefully bait someone to tell me how this solves it. Or something else solves it. Have you ever heard how you could pay off your mortgage a lot quicker by making bi-weekly payments instead of monthly? Or how you can include extra with your payment and instruct your bank to apply it directly to the premium, helping you reduce your interest?…

Can you name your bank please so to make it a negative review on their bad business practises?

It’s a credit union called Trumark.

On a related note - it appears to me that credit unions are no longer what the conventional wisdom said they are either - a small community and customer-minded institution.

In practice - I frequently see them being bought up or transferring management and resembling the national chains in how they operate more and more. Not sure what the difference is to be honest.

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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Hey founder (and OP) here. This has been a labor of love for the past few years and I'm super stoked on what we shipped. Would love any and all feedback, thoughts and questions!

This looks like an awesome shiny tool but I'm not sure what I could do with it! Some Use Cases of successful or hypothetical customers using your product might help other understand how they can use Column for their business.

Is Column Use case to create cards/accounts for a business' customers like Apple did with the Apple credit card?

In my case, I'm the founder of https://www.waiterio.com which is a B2B order management system for restaurants... can I use Column to offer bank accounts and cards to restaurants owners? Or restaurant diners? What are the winnings for me related to revenues/branding/customers retention?

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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What does "chartered" mean?

In the US (and most countries) in order to get access to the central bank (in the US the fed) and do 'banking things' like holding money, moving money, and lending money you have to have a banking charter. We have a national charter (issued by the OCC) but you can also have some other more bespoke charters as well!

So what's a non-chartered bank?

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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I am able to add additional premium payments to my payment, or as a separate payment, via my online mortgage payment site. It sounds like the bank/site your loan is under is actively hostile towards such payments. I don't know enough about mortgages to know how to help you solve your side, though.

The most sad part is, while I'm not OP, I had a bank that supported bi-weekly payments, my mortgage was sold, and the new bank doesn't . What a kick in the pants!

They're saving you money by not supporting bi-weekly payments :)

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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Hey, I’m an ex-Square that is part of founding engineering team at Column. My team will be monitoring this thread and we’ll be happy to answer any questions! Especially those about ACH, I’m sure you have plenty and we know it through-out!

How much COBOL do you have to write on a daily basis?

Zero. The whole stack is built in golang from scratch and we integrate with FED over some... interesting protocols.

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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Hey founder (and OP) here. This has been a labor of love for the past few years and I'm super stoked on what we shipped. Would love any and all feedback, thoughts and questions!

Is there a way to invite other users to a developer account? Or is it single user?

You can invite others to your team!

Re: Column – a chartered bank for developers

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Check out https://griffin.sh/

Hi! Griffin co-founder and CEO here. Yes, we're building exactly what Column is building but for the UK. Fun fact - Column's CEO is even an investor in us!

Griffin is super rad!
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