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> Most non-architectural hand-writers write the letter “P” with a single stroke: draw a small loop and extend the side downward to form the stem. An architectural hand-writer writes the letter “P” using two independent strokes: draw a small circle, lift the pen, and then draw a vertical line tangent to the left-side of that circle, extending downward. Am I the only one who draws the downstroke first, then back up and…
Whatever i had before was essentially illegible. I think the act of learning something by choice, as opposed to having it forced on me through public school, allowed me to embrace that artistic aspect of it and see handwriting as something other than purely utilitarian.
> In penmanship class, we learned a standard cursive font. I think it’s the standard cursive font, in fact. He's wrong that there's a standard cursive. Different countries and different centuries have used a variety of different cursives. Most Americans who were taught cursive in school learned either Zaner-Bloser or D'Nealian, which both derive from Palmer. Both of them are terrible . They have indistinct letter sha…
Here’s an image comparing the systems mentioned by the parent (excuse the .ru…) http://www.calligraphy-union.ru/EditorFiles/image/news/66315...
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Can you link to a pic or vid of this? I think a visual aid would help.
Something like this [0], but don't worry about the counting, just doodle the patterns [0] https://fcmdsc.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/exercises.jpg
Here's my take: The author was born in the 90s, and was in elementary and middle school in the 2000s, when keyboarding was already seen as a primary skill. His take that "nobody writes cursive anymore" is true, given that for him, "everyone" is under the age of 30. Those of us who grew up prior to personal computers and phone touchscreens being ubiquitous can scream all we want "I learned cursive and I still write it…
It is useful, just not in a way that many people find acceptable. It is a marker of a particular sort of "elite" education. Your comment that this surfaces a "bunch of rich, but likely average-intelligence" people is true, but it misses the point. It's not meant to reveal intelligence, but whether a person is "one of us" — the right sort, a safe pair a hands, a sound fellow, etc. The decision-makers care much less about intelligence than whether they can be trusted to "do the right thing," which is whatever maintains elites in their position—exactly what these people have been brought up to do by their parents and educated to do by elite institutions.
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They taught millennials to write in cursive. I only stopped because some of my teachers couldn't read it. It took work to write in print as effortlessly.
> I only stopped because some of my teachers couldn't read it. Unlikely you'd get away with that in a European school, irrespective of how bad your writing is ! Here's a French newspaper article from 2012 bemoaning the fact that Calefornians are barely taught cursive. ;-) [1] https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2012/11/28/01003-20121...
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In re: different countries: students who study Russian (or, I assume, other languages that use a similar alphabet) typically learn to write Russian in cursive. The letter forms overlap with English/American cursive, but not perfectly, and of course there are OTHER letters, too, that we lack. (Russian cursive is also notoriously hard to read for non-native speakers owing to a few idiosyncrasies: some letters are entir…
It’s very likely that English cursive is insufficient to really write the English words - since English pretends to only have 26 letters but so many do double or more duty - sometimes distinguished by diphthongs or other mechanisms but often just assumed you’ll know which pronunciation is right. I wonder if the Russian cursive slips in because it has sounds that are closer.
That is a very, very weird assertion.
In any case, the letters that would get swapped in were 1-for-1 replacements for the English ones, though, so I don't think that's the factor.
Fun (or maybe not-so-fun) fact: my 15-year-old nephew recently had to sign a document for some volunteer work, and he didn't know how. Apparently, schools no longer teach cursive, not even enough for kids to learn how to sign their own names for legal documents. The secretary was just like, "Yeah, we get that a lot; he can just print his name instead, that's fine." I've always had shitty handwriting, and when I was i…
Hell, nobody even cares what it says, so my "signature" is just a scribble that is somewhat consistent.
Here's my take: The author was born in the 90s, and was in elementary and middle school in the 2000s, when keyboarding was already seen as a primary skill. His take that "nobody writes cursive anymore" is true, given that for him, "everyone" is under the age of 30. Those of us who grew up prior to personal computers and phone touchscreens being ubiquitous can scream all we want "I learned cursive and I still write it…
For clarity, this post was more creative writing exercise than technical treatise.
The other stuff I wrote is secondary to your post, and just a hot take. Thanks for the stimulating article though!
Here's my take: The author was born in the 90s, and was in elementary and middle school in the 2000s, when keyboarding was already seen as a primary skill. His take that "nobody writes cursive anymore" is true, given that for him, "everyone" is under the age of 30. Those of us who grew up prior to personal computers and phone touchscreens being ubiquitous can scream all we want "I learned cursive and I still write it…
> And to the commenters claiming graphology is a thing or that it is in any way useful in sorting candidates for job opportunities It is useful, just not in a way that many people find acceptable. It is a marker of a particular sort of "elite" education. Your comment that this surfaces a "bunch of rich, but likely average-intelligence" people is true, but it misses the point. It's not meant to reveal intelligence, bu…