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Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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I could imagine it being something along the lines of "The economic productivity of a typical black slave was X... yada yada yada... how many dollars in reparations does America owe modern black Americans Y years later at interest rate Z." I could also imagine it being something much more benign. I really wish we could see what it actually was so we could see if the DoE's judgement here was reasonable or not.

https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudi...

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Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Floridian here. I've lived here all my life, and DeSantis is the first Governor under whom I have felt that the entire agenda is piss off people who aren't politically aligned with his values. Not a week goes by without some inflammatory new policy making it into the news cycle, and it saddens me because Florida has a ton of problems that we could be collaborating on legislatively, but instead, it's just partisan bri…

And yet, blue state liberal democrats are clamoring to move to Florida. New Yorkers and Californians trying to escape their failed states with outrageous taxes, is it any wonder then that states like Florida and Texas are purposely trying to seem as unattractive as possible to these people. Way too many people in Florida these days.

> And yet, blue state liberal democrats are clamoring to move to Florida.

Old people are looking to move to Florida for the weather. I don't think that many liberals are looking to move there for the politics. Especially if you have a family—who on earth would want to give up the New York State school system, to raise your kids in the Florida school system? I can't imagine any blue state liberals would want that.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could imagine it being something along the lines of "The economic productivity of a typical black slave was X... yada yada yada... how many dollars in reparations does America owe modern black Americans Y years later at interest rate Z." I could also imagine it being something much more benign. I really wish we could see what it actually was so we could see if the DoE's judgement here was reasonable or not.

https://www.k12.wa.us/sites/default/files/public/socialstudi...

Thank you for this link. I was wondering when someone was going to present some concrete evidence for the "social justice" creep into mathematics curriculum that some people object to.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Such news stories add credence to the idea that the web + social media have been a universal solvent for societies. Especially democratic societies. Three decades ago, such a move would have been an eyebrow raising 2 to 5 minute news story on the evening news. Or, mentioned in a tiny column in the newspaper on some page. Most people wouldn't have come into contact with it. Let alone with such vigor that it led to an…

I'm just wondering why NPR (!) is so political.

You'd hope they'd be a better source of news that better serves all political parties. (And avoid those that seem partisan.)

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Such news stories add credence to the idea that the web + social media have been a universal solvent for societies. Especially democratic societies. Three decades ago, such a move would have been an eyebrow raising 2 to 5 minute news story on the evening news. Or, mentioned in a tiny column in the newspaper on some page. Most people wouldn't have come into contact with it. Let alone with such vigor that it led to an…

I'm just wondering why NPR (!) is so political. You'd hope they'd be a better source of news that better serves all political parties. (And avoid those that seem partisan.)

I fail to see what part of the article is "political." The article states the facts, the books being banned, gets a quote from an opposing voice taking a jab at Florida republicans, and reiterates this is not the first time that Florida republicans have tampered with school curriculum. These are facts it doesn't matter if it was done by republicans or democrats. I would expect NPR to report the news regardless of whodunit. That's news, a change was made, the people who made the change are mentioned, an opposing opinion is supplied and prior history is shown. Just because you may support or dissent to the actions taken of the parties involved doesn't make the news political it just makes it news.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just wondering why NPR (!) is so political. You'd hope they'd be a better source of news that better serves all political parties. (And avoid those that seem partisan.)

I fail to see what part of the article is "political." The article states the facts, the books being banned, gets a quote from an opposing voice taking a jab at Florida republicans, and reiterates this is not the first time that Florida republicans have tampered with school curriculum. These are facts it doesn't matter if it was done by republicans or democrats. I would expect NPR to report the news regardless of who…

An alternative headline might have been "Florida prefers math books that teach math."

Factual. But provactive in some way, isn't it? That's the point. NPR should play the middle line, after all it's tax money.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to see what part of the article is "political." The article states the facts, the books being banned, gets a quote from an opposing voice taking a jab at Florida republicans, and reiterates this is not the first time that Florida republicans have tampered with school curriculum. These are facts it doesn't matter if it was done by republicans or democrats. I would expect NPR to report the news regardless of who…

An alternative headline might have been "Florida prefers math books that teach math." Factual. But provactive in some way, isn't it? That's the point. NPR should play the middle line, after all it's tax money.

Oh sure, maybe. If they bothered to release the list of titles and the isbn for each book that was banned perhaps we could reach such a conclusion. But since no such list exists and no citation examples are provided. Seems pretty easy to dismiss the actions taken by the Florida Department of Education as strictly political. What do they have to hide? I want to see what they consider to be prohibited topics for a mathematics curriculum.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fail to see what part of the article is "political." The article states the facts, the books being banned, gets a quote from an opposing voice taking a jab at Florida republicans, and reiterates this is not the first time that Florida republicans have tampered with school curriculum. These are facts it doesn't matter if it was done by republicans or democrats. I would expect NPR to report the news regardless of who…

An alternative headline might have been "Florida prefers math books that teach math." Factual. But provactive in some way, isn't it? That's the point. NPR should play the middle line, after all it's tax money.

Yeah? How's this for an alternative headline! "Florida attempts to disguise grift as criticism of instructional materials as republican CRT witch hunt continues unabated." Looks like the only publisher allowed for math text books happens to be the one run by Glenn Youngkin. Factual, unprovocative, and more likely to piss you off. Why play the middle line when we can just air the dirty laundry for everyone to smell.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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I can understand rejecting them for "failed to meet curriculum standards", but what does "incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies" really mean? Are there math topics and "stategies" that are illegal in the US/Florida somehow? I also understand that including critical race theory in math books seems wildly irrelevant (unless I miss something) and therefor not fit for the curriculum. But I'm interested…

I could imagine it being something along the lines of "The economic productivity of a typical black slave was X... yada yada yada... how many dollars in reparations does America owe modern black Americans Y years later at interest rate Z." I could also imagine it being something much more benign. I really wish we could see what it actually was so we could see if the DoE's judgement here was reasonable or not.

Turns out your were not that far off

https://dailycaller.com/2022/04/21/desantis-examples-critica...

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An alternative headline might have been "Florida prefers math books that teach math." Factual. But provactive in some way, isn't it? That's the point. NPR should play the middle line, after all it's tax money.

Oh sure, maybe. If they bothered to release the list of titles and the isbn for each book that was banned perhaps we could reach such a conclusion. But since no such list exists and no citation examples are provided. Seems pretty easy to dismiss the actions taken by the Florida Department of Education as strictly political. What do they have to hide? I want to see what they consider to be prohibited topics for a math…

Here you go. I think that RickJWagner's point is why not wait. Why jump to conclusions and post inflammatory headlines as a default... because NPR is a leftist political entity now.

https://dailycaller.com/2022/04/21/desantis-examples-critica...

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