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Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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> People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change. Is there any research that supports this claim? If I use an app for 6 years, why would I suddenly need a change? I'm still ocassionally using a 10 y/o version of Photoshop. In fact, I'm very happy that it does not change. I wouldn't want to spend time on re-learning the UI. The same is true for many apps that…

Designers don't want their product to look dated. Once there's enough evidence that a new trend is taking over, they feel an urge to redesign. Like programmers feel a project need a an overhaul, even though the end user thinks everything is okay.

More like: Designers won't have jobs if web sites never need to be changed. So they create work for themselves by inventing the necessity of a redesign.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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> Brutalism is a 1950’s architectural trend that was abandoning all decorations, and creating brutally simple buildings made from concrete. They often weren’t even painted to emphasize their brutal nature. So big, brutal blocks of concrete. > It was the architects showing they were bored with the status-quo and trying something different. That feels very similar to the current search for the UI trend to take over des…

> "Brutalism" doesn't come from "brutal" but from "brut", meaning raw or unaltered. ...and when something has that quality, you say that it's brutal .

Not according to the dictionary.

    brutal, adjective
    savagely violent: a brutal murder.
    • unpleasant or harsh
    • direct and without attempting to disguise unpleasantness

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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> People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change. Is there any research that supports this claim? If I use an app for 6 years, why would I suddenly need a change? I'm still ocassionally using a 10 y/o version of Photoshop. In fact, I'm very happy that it does not change. I wouldn't want to spend time on re-learning the UI. The same is true for many apps that…

Designers don't want their product to look dated. Once there's enough evidence that a new trend is taking over, they feel an urge to redesign. Like programmers feel a project need a an overhaul, even though the end user thinks everything is okay.

> Like programmers feel a project need a an overhaul, even though the end user thinks everything is okay.

A decent design doesn't need an overhaul to extend the functionality of a program or even to keep the program being able to run on modern operating systems, whereas the code foundation absolutely needs regular maintenance - external dependencies need to be upgraded, platforms change their APIs all the time (cough Windows), and after a number of extensions it might make sense to refactor code.

The problem is as usual career/KPI related - there is no glory in maintenance or prevention. A new design will be seen, reviewed and advertised, which if done well is good for the careers of the people involved. With the backend code, unless the developers have extremely good managers and corporate culture allows valuing of maintenance, no one cares even about a complete rewrite - maybe only when it saves actual money e.g. in hosting because money is the only thing MBAs can understand.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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> Brutalism is a 1950’s architectural trend that was abandoning all decorations, and creating brutally simple buildings made from concrete. They often weren’t even painted to emphasize their brutal nature. So big, brutal blocks of concrete. > It was the architects showing they were bored with the status-quo and trying something different. That feels very similar to the current search for the UI trend to take over des…

Agreed. The "brutalism" in web design takes only the superficial look but forgets about the philosophy of nakedness and honesty. How would that translate to the Web? IMO by blurring the distinction between the rendered page and the page source. Nothing to hide! I went ahead and did just that on my own blog: https://dcz_self.gitlab.io/posts/brutalism/

Yeah. Sounds like true web brutalism would mean little to no styling. Just plain Times New Roman everywhere. Black text on grey or white, blue/purple links, etc. Apart from the font (which would probably be going a bit too far for many people), your blog is an excellent example.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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> Brutalism is a 1950’s architectural trend that was abandoning all decorations, and creating brutally simple buildings made from concrete. They often weren’t even painted to emphasize their brutal nature. So big, brutal blocks of concrete. > It was the architects showing they were bored with the status-quo and trying something different. That feels very similar to the current search for the UI trend to take over des…

Agreed. The "brutalism" in web design takes only the superficial look but forgets about the philosophy of nakedness and honesty. How would that translate to the Web? IMO by blurring the distinction between the rendered page and the page source. Nothing to hide! I went ahead and did just that on my own blog: https://dcz_self.gitlab.io/posts/brutalism/

I rather like that layout, no js and the page navigation passes the 'readable on an ancient blackberry classic Web browser' test. Well done.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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> People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change. Is there any research that supports this claim? If I use an app for 6 years, why would I suddenly need a change? I'm still ocassionally using a 10 y/o version of Photoshop. In fact, I'm very happy that it does not change. I wouldn't want to spend time on re-learning the UI. The same is true for many apps that…

I don't think this is true (that people get bored and need change). People get used to the way the website looks and no longer pay attention, plus they know exactly how everything works so a change is indeed disruptive (we've all been there, moaning that they've changed the way it worked!)

BUT, this is a relative thing. New shiny apps and websites will appear and suddenly yours looks dated and crp and so you become under pressure to update it.

You nailed it, though: "Please don't overdo re-designs just for the sake of it.*"

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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post #3

Please, no. I mean, I'm ok some websites go this way, but overal, I preffer the cleanness of the flat style for most of the services.

I've hated flat.. It lacks the intuitiveness of what can be pressed and what can't. And it looks unsophisticated in my opinion.. I always liked the skeuomorphism unless it was totally overdone liked the iOS notepad app or its game center.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why would I suddenly need a change? Because your designers need a reason to still exist, and redesigning an entire application is what that reason becomes.

Just like fashion... I wonder why we don't all wear the same style as 100 years ago, no? /s

You're apparently sarcastic, but fashion really does look like nonsense to me. I'm not sure what point you're making.
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