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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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His complaint is very valid in my opinion. Imagine Granny Smith being sent to that page and opening it on her 1024x768 notebook.

>His complaint is very valid in my opinion. Imagine Granny Smith being sent to that page and opening it on her 1024x768 notebook. Why? What's the purpose of sending "Granny Smith" to that demo? She going to be really excited about the new OS and install it herself? Even if you do, she emails you and says it didn't work, so you...do what you did before. Live cd? Have a discussion with her? Let her try yours? The onlin…

"Here, look. This is what your computer would look and feel like if I installed this free modern system on it."

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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I have the 3810T too and I can report similar numbers. But still, I get more life when I boot into Windows. Moreover, suspend & hibernate just don't work & the laptop fan always stays on. It could be a buggy BIOS for all I know but we could still do better. Thus, an OEM option where _everything works_ would definitely be nice.

As far as the suspend/hibernate issue try adding i8042.reset to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT variable in /etc/default/grub the fan thing is a problem for me too, but it doesn't get crazy loud. Also check if you have the latest BIOS from Acer. Latest version is 1.28 I think.

I do have the v1.28 BIOS. And I think I did try that and all the other options I possibly could when I first got this laptop. I've just settled for the loud fan. Anyway, I'm going to upgrade to the new release and see what that brings!

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

#113
post #104
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the 3810T too and I can report similar numbers. But still, I get more life when I boot into Windows. Moreover, suspend & hibernate just don't work & the laptop fan always stays on. It could be a buggy BIOS for all I know but we could still do better. Thus, an OEM option where _everything works_ would definitely be nice.

Did you try "sudo apt-get install fancontrol"?

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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

#114
post #104
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the 3810T too and I can report similar numbers. But still, I get more life when I boot into Windows. Moreover, suspend & hibernate just don't work & the laptop fan always stays on. It could be a buggy BIOS for all I know but we could still do better. Thus, an OEM option where _everything works_ would definitely be nice.

Did you try "sudo apt-get install fancontrol"?

I did. Here's what running 'pwmconfig' gives me:

    /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

#115
post #111
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>His complaint is very valid in my opinion. Imagine Granny Smith being sent to that page and opening it on her 1024x768 notebook. Why? What's the purpose of sending "Granny Smith" to that demo? She going to be really excited about the new OS and install it herself? Even if you do, she emails you and says it didn't work, so you...do what you did before. Live cd? Have a discussion with her? Let her try yours? The onlin…

"Here, look. This is what your computer would look and feel like if I installed this free modern system on it."

...and then what? She ends the idea of installing the OS? No, she probably tells you (for whatever reason) she doesn't understand what she's looking at. And your response is what; to just quit? Tell her to use her current OS?

My point? The online demo isn't the end-all of the Ubuntu preview. Stop treating it like it is.

Finally, ask yourself, am I making good points or trying desperately to win an internet argument.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

#117
post #115
post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Here, look. This is what your computer would look and feel like if I installed this free modern system on it."

...and then what? She ends the idea of installing the OS? No, she probably tells you (for whatever reason) she doesn't understand what she's looking at. And your response is what; to just quit? Tell her to use her current OS? My point? The online demo isn't the end-all of the Ubuntu preview. Stop treating it like it is. Finally, ask yourself, am I making good points or trying desperately to win an internet argument.

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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

#118

Earlier, i would actively anticipate new ubuntu releases. These days, its replaced by dreading what parts they have completely broken this time.

My first experience with 11.10 was that wi-fi no longer worked. After fighting with it for several hours, I'm going back to 11.4.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

#119
post #104
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the 3810T too and I can report similar numbers. But still, I get more life when I boot into Windows. Moreover, suspend & hibernate just don't work & the laptop fan always stays on. It could be a buggy BIOS for all I know but we could still do better. Thus, an OEM option where _everything works_ would definitely be nice.

Did you try "sudo apt-get install fancontrol"?

Thanks, I just installed it. No immediate results but I will play around with it.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

#120
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the 3810T too and I can report similar numbers. But still, I get more life when I boot into Windows. Moreover, suspend & hibernate just don't work & the laptop fan always stays on. It could be a buggy BIOS for all I know but we could still do better. Thus, an OEM option where _everything works_ would definitely be nice.

As far as the suspend/hibernate issue try adding i8042.reset to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT variable in /etc/default/grub the fan thing is a problem for me too, but it doesn't get crazy loud. Also check if you have the latest BIOS from Acer. Latest version is 1.28 I think.

I upgraded to 11.10 today and guess what, suspend works! I had to add `i8042.reset` to grub config but finally, working suspend!
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