Lol 840 upvotes, 305 comments, not even a day old and it’s not on the front page.
What a racket this place can be
HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
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Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#322Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…
It would probably be prudent to withdraw your other DMCA notices until you figure this out. You're being given the benefit of the doubt, and the other counternotice on Github doesn't exactly portray you in the best light either.
It would probably be prudent to withdraw all existing notices, never submit one again, and send donations to every single project you have ever sent a DMCA notice to, and do everything in your power to get all content re-instated, everywhere.
You aren't even really a content company, this is such a bad look. Your value is in your network of people, not in the content.
Without a discussion of how/why you thought this would be a good idea and how this has been happening on an ongoing basis, we can't really accept your apology.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have a computer science degree, you are expected to know fundamental topics such as data structures and algorithms. As a professional software engineer, you are expected to be proficient at those skills to an extent in which you can demonstrate them in practice. The burden of verifying you acquired the skills associated with your education falls on the employer. Fizzbuzz is trivial and should not be a problem…
no, the burden falls on the college. that is the point, if the college is good, then you cannot graduate unless you mastered both theory and practice. and i am not talking about fizzbuzz, read my comment.
In an ideal world, yes.
In practice, many colleges fail to teach those skills.
And accreditions depend on governments which are sometimes corrupt or inept.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#324Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…
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Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
well, how did HR get through YC?
You don't become a billionaire by writing too many checks. Hence why they outsourced their goon squad to Pakistan.
that is not what i asked. why did YC fund hackerrank? sounds like a shitty idea and bad for our industry.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
no, the burden falls on the college. that is the point, if the college is good, then you cannot graduate unless you mastered both theory and practice. and i am not talking about fizzbuzz, read my comment.
In an ideal world, yes. In practice, many colleges fail to teach those skills. And accreditions depend on governments which are sometimes corrupt or inept.
companies can keep a list of universities and decide to only screen those who do not have a degree from those universities. the list can be dynamically changed based on on the job feedback.
any university in western europe is pretty hard to graduate at without actually having these skills. so it is pointless to enforce coding interviews for those who graduated there. you can’t “buy” a degree there.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#327Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…
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Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#328Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…
"As a company we take a lot of pride in helping developers"
Oh really? You: commoditize humans by reducing them to a score, you: destroy their public contributions
Sounds like you're a pretty terrible dev advocate. You should be ashamed to show your username and affiliation on HN.
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#329Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…
And what are you doing about this one? https://gist.github.com/TheRayTracer/baafd4a9eea152d1911c5f5...
Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't have to insult people to get your argument across. Could just say, for example, you don't think it's a disrespect to oneself to attend Hacker Rank tests and explain why.
it's fairly simple, at some point you have to evaluate somone technical skills to make sure they are suitble for the job, and well designed tests do that. There is an abundance of bad tests out there, but blanket statements that you won't use a tool that is used for assessing candiates is just as rediculas as saying you won't give apply to jobs that ask for your cv to apply.
Well no, if a company is happy to pay six figures but lacks the desire to spend an hour or two pair programming or even just creating a tech test, their priorities are all wrong and I don’t want to work for them. Hiring is about people and not robots, so using automated tests like Hacker Rank that almost always have zero bearing on how a problem would be solved in a real environment is a testament to a lazy hiring process and an extremely poor reflection on the company. Don’t try to automate something that should intrinsically involve human interaction.
Comparing it to a CV is a false equivalence because it takes me O(1) effort to make and CV and O(n) to do some stupid timed algorithm test for every company that is interested in the value of my labour.