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Big Myths Employers Are Using to Force “Return to Office”

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Re: Big Myths Employers Are Using to Force “Return to Office”

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I actually don’t care whether I’m more productive at home or in the office. I’m positive I’m more productive in the office but I won’t return either way. It makes no difference to me . My life is not about my employer extracting 100% of my productivity from me. I have a better quality of life working from home and I’m going to keep it.

Tbh I don’t think I do more or less work than I did in office.

The difference is now when I’m waiting for bureaucratic machines to move, I can at least do it in the comfort of my home.

I’d be willing to go back into office for the right job, but history tells me they don’t even want to interview me anyway :)

Re: Big Myths Employers Are Using to Force “Return to Office”

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> offices foster collaboration and culture sharing... for you > offices foster collaboration and culture sharing... for you Not everyone is like you. Your claims simply don't apply to those of us who have an easier time collaborating with professional colleagues remotely. It's unfortunate that we are completely disregarded and told what our preferences should be by people who completely fail or are unwilling to under…

Not everyone is like you either.

What new information does this comment add to the conversation? I never said everyone is like me, I'm responding to someone making a blanket statement that doesn't actually apply to everyone.

Re: Big Myths Employers Are Using to Force “Return to Office”

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So is being so extremely judgmental without even considering things from GP's perspective. They are trying to keep things in harmony while focusing on output. It might not leave the work environment socially positive, but they aren't actively trying to make the place worse socially, either. That doesn't sound a bad deal considering some of us are very selective with relationships and frankly, selecting companies for…

I assume a lot of HN participants only get social interaction at work, or their colleagues are their only or primary friends, which leads to the idea “if you don’t have friendships with these people, you’re a bad worker.”

One can deliver quality work cordially, but at a distance socially, in my experience.

Re: Big Myths Employers Are Using to Force “Return to Office”

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personally I find 1x1s over Zoom extremely fatiguing. No app will ever help with that, ever. I'd even take an in-person 1x1 in a drab conference room over Zoom.

It's way less fatiguing for me since I switch off my cam or at least the display of my own video image. You should give it a try. :)

Yeah, but then you're talking to an emotionless box in a Zoom window, which is even worse.

Re: Big Myths Employers Are Using to Force “Return to Office”

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Bloomberg: Bosses Don't Follow Their Own Advice in Returning to the Office

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-19/bosses-do...

While 35% of non-executive employees are in the office five days a week, just 19% of executives can say the same, according to a survey by Future Forum, a research consortium backed by messaging channel Slack.

Re: Big Myths Employers Are Using to Force “Return to Office”

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Anecdata: I’ve noticed that the voices in an organisation who are more keen for a return to the office tend to be the managers, directors, leadership sort of roles. I wonder if being in the office is just simply more enjoyable for those with power and influence, while individual contributors (trying to get their work done) find they like it more at home?

I'm an IC and I'm way more productive in the office without the distractions of home. Also it's a lot easier to peek over to see if someone's busy or not before hitting them on chat to see if they're busy for a quick informal discussion. It's less of an event when you walk by the person every day. Finding a way to reduce distractions is easier at work: it's a lot easier to change jobs than to change families :-)

I unfortunately agree with you.

I wish I was better at home than the office, but I am not.

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