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Netflix hints at password sharing crackdown as subscribers fall

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Re: Netflix hints at password sharing crackdown as subscribers fall

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Post by Beltiras »

foepys wrote: post #28
hhmc wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not clear your logic actually follows, presumably some fraction of those 100M would pay if sharing passwords wasn't an option.

But how many people will stop paying because they only keep it for their parents, partners, or friends? This could easily result in less subscribers. If Netflix were so sure about the benefits of blocking password sharing, they could've done this years ago. Arguably many people subscribe to the comparatively very expensive UHD plan because they can share passwords with up to 3 people.

It will result in less subscribers, at least this subscriber will cancel.

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Post by api »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #6

For me, Netflix needs higher quality content. More creative risky shows like the OA, Altered Carbon, Love, Death & Robots, Black Mirror and more old HBO style content… quality vs factory cookie cutter produced stuff trying to satisfy the lowest common denominator, because then you will satisfy no one. Maybe they have good shows I just don't know about. Their recommendation system seems to be crap. I browse for 20 min…

> Netflix needs higher quality content.

They got cheap when it comes to both licensing others' stuff and producing their own. It look a while for it to catch up to them.

Maybe they looked at the utter crap that gets millions views on YouTube. The difference is that YouTube is free. Nobody pays for hours of some narcissistic asshole spewing political outrage porn, repetitive cheap animations, or someone lighting their balls on fire.

Occasionally there is really good content on YouTube. I've noticed that Amazon has been picking it up.

Re: Netflix hints at password sharing crackdown as subscribers fall

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Post by xil3 »

incomingpain wrote: post #21

They have more competitors than ever before. They raised prices. They planned to crackdown on their subs. They do crackdown on vpns. They haven't made the 'black ukrainian falling in love with trans russian soldier' movie yet. Netflix is going to lose a ton more subs until they make that movie.

That movie would be a hit!

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

t_sawyer wrote: post #16

Um… I pay for screens. As long as my account is within that screen limit it shouldn’t matter who is using it.

You really pay for nothing.

They could remove all the content you are interested in overnight and you'd have absolutely no recourse other than stop paying next month.

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Post by weeeeelp »

mr90210 wrote: post #27
uxcolumbo wrote: post #6

For me, Netflix needs higher quality content. More creative risky shows like the OA, Altered Carbon, Love, Death & Robots, Black Mirror and more old HBO style content… quality vs factory cookie cutter produced stuff trying to satisfy the lowest common denominator, because then you will satisfy no one. Maybe they have good shows I just don't know about. Their recommendation system seems to be crap. I browse for 20 min…

I’ve switched to HBO MAX at 6 euros / month. I am happy for now.

+1, some good stuff over there, all the HBO classics and new movies are available quite soon after release - watched the new Batman yesterday, about to rewatch The Wire. Also the new platform is really improved in terms of usability, it the old HBO GO service which HBO MAX replaced was really bad with buffering and "adaptive" quality which somehow was always 480p for me. Now it's crisp and nice.

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Post by mschuster91 »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #24

They're losing subscribers, because of multiple reasons, most of which are their own fault: - Subscription prices keep rising, and they were already very high. - Libraries decreasing as they lose the licensing to other streaming services. - Originals are hit and miss, mostly miss, and get cancelled constantly after 1 season. - Crackdown on VPN and password sharing. - COVID lockdowns are mostly over in Europe, US and…

> Originals are hit and miss, mostly miss, and get cancelled constantly after 1 season.

The latter thing is precisely what causes the most "misses". Hard to get invested even despite minor issues when you know it will get cancelled anyway. Also means no one will produce or buy merch aside from coffee mugs, further cutting into profits.

> Libraries outside the US are a fraction of the size of the US library, some legitimately have less than 10% of its content, while asking for the same amount of money.

I believe that only mandatory licensing laws will solve that issue. Particularly Disney... it's time someone finally steps in and either breaks them up or forces them to license their content to competitors. The level of control this company has over the most popular/profitable entertainment brands (MCU, Star Wars, Avatar) is just insane - they own everything from the core IP over studios to distribution, and I would not be surprised at all if they'll announce to buy up AMC and other regional cinema chains.

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Post by Phurist »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #24

They're losing subscribers, because of multiple reasons, most of which are their own fault: - Subscription prices keep rising, and they were already very high. - Libraries decreasing as they lose the licensing to other streaming services. - Originals are hit and miss, mostly miss, and get cancelled constantly after 1 season. - Crackdown on VPN and password sharing. - COVID lockdowns are mostly over in Europe, US and…

I would also add that competition by now has voice and subtitles in local languages for users outside of US, which is a huge + in case you have kids who want to watch some movies, shows or cartoons.

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Post by thatbfromt »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #24

They're losing subscribers, because of multiple reasons, most of which are their own fault: - Subscription prices keep rising, and they were already very high. - Libraries decreasing as they lose the licensing to other streaming services. - Originals are hit and miss, mostly miss, and get cancelled constantly after 1 season. - Crackdown on VPN and password sharing. - COVID lockdowns are mostly over in Europe, US and…

> Libraries outside the US are a fraction of the size of the US library, some legitimately have less than 10% of its content, while asking for the same amount of money.

What regions do you mean? In Eastern Europe I have popular shows like "The Office" and "Friends" in my Netflix, for example, that are not available to the US customers.

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Post by nfRfqX5n »

3333333331 wrote: post #40

One of the things that goes unmentioned in these articles is the absolutely horrible UX in the app--why does every movie I consider have to start playing at 110dB as soon as I browse to it? I have to steel myself to open the AppleTV app (or mute my TV) to browse through their collection. Then there's the horrid algorithmically-generated posters for each movie...

Netflix UX is not perfect but it’s probably the best in the business

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Post by imglorp »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #24

They're losing subscribers, because of multiple reasons, most of which are their own fault: - Subscription prices keep rising, and they were already very high. - Libraries decreasing as they lose the licensing to other streaming services. - Originals are hit and miss, mostly miss, and get cancelled constantly after 1 season. - Crackdown on VPN and password sharing. - COVID lockdowns are mostly over in Europe, US and…

Add to that region locking.

As a consumer, it's immensely frustrating that a global service needs to maintain geofencing to satisfy the bazillion content contracts. This is an artificial scarcity.

Example: in the US, Better Call Saul season 1-5 is on NF. Season 6 is on NF in many countries, but NOT in the US -- presumably an embargo for AMC.

Splitting series across platforms is such a shitty, anti-consumer maneuver. It forces people to either hop services, in and out of contract, or just pirate and be done with it.

They have people lined up to pay for the product and they can't deliver it without hurt.

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