Still the gamers theme, though :(
The theme is kind of a silly thing to complain about. It's just about the easiest thing to change. It's not like OS X, which is ugly all the time.
Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)
#92This seems like a lot of effort for something that will be unnecessary and unused in a month. I mean, it's cool, but they already have infrastructure for "demoing" remote apps, they could have demo remote instances with websocketed/vnc (noVNC, very cool).
It got people effortlessly demoing the OS's UI, I think it's spot on.
But it's not REALLY the OS's UI, is it....it's a bunch of HTML made to look like the OS's UI. Sure it might be indicative, but a video and some screen shots would also be indicative.
Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)
#93Did anyone else notice that the webbrowser in the tour works? You can enter new urls, click around - even form submission works.
It's slightly deceptive; the browser is just an embedded frame that uses your browsers rendering engine. Hopefully nobody using IE tries to use this to check site compatibility.
Yes, the illusion was totally broken for me when I saw Windows scroll-bars while browsing.
Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)
#94It seems they fast prototyped unity using web. There are two things that I can't stand about it on a real laptop: 1)When you maximize files folders, and it seems it is default, the desktop icons occlude the links on the file browser, and is SO UGLY. 2)My laptop hangs when I try to restore compiz with --restore. I really miss the 3d cube. So I'm downloading fedora or anything that makes it usable again.
> So I'm downloading fedora or anything that makes it usable again. Good luck with that - Fedora uses GNOME 3 by default. It seems the only WM I'm personally happy with nowadays is XFCE.
Have you used KDE at all? If so, why do you prefer XFCE? I'm asking because I really can't stand Unity and have made the switch to KDE, but I also looked at XFCE.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is distribution. Not many people outside the technical/hacker community are even aware what Linux is, let alone Ubuntu. They need to have more hardware partners that aggressively sell ultracheap laptops/machines. Furthermore these partners need more low entry sales channels like radio shack, walmart, target, or even CVS where more middle class consumers have access to these machines.
I agree. Unless there is a significant push by OEMs, the Linux desktop will never see wide adoption. I wonder what were the reasons for Dell pulling their Ubuntu based options in the US? Inability to provide support, or was it a push by its main OS provider.
Probably when they realized they still had to pay Microsoft to license the OS.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Figures there would be a gripe about an OPERATING SYSTEM demo in a WEB BROWSER. Shame on them. Install Ubuntu. Let that be your first impression. I'm sure it will fit your screen.
His complaint is very valid in my opinion. Imagine Granny Smith being sent to that page and opening it on her 1024x768 notebook.
Christ, give it a rest. Canonical should definitely not be targeting Granny Smith, not yet anyway. Power users dissatisfied with Windows or MacOS are where the action is for now and the foreseeable future.
(Here, I use the term 'power user' to mean e.g. anyone who has looked at the device manager in Windows.)
Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)
#97Looking great! But unfortunately the unity framework is still no good. And no customization - that's not in the spirit of linux
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#98Kubuntu user here. I'm a bit confused on how the left bar in this tour of unity works. I see that if I click home folder, the file manager opens up. However, if the file manager is already opened, clicking home just switches to file manager (even if it is not in the home folder!). So, how do I actually launch multiple instances of a program?
Mainly by using the "new window" function in the program itself; IIRC though, the context menu has a "Open new" option as well.
Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)
#99Wow this is one of the cleanest demos of any product i've seen, hats off to the web guys on this they did an amazing job. I only use ubuntu on my servers but this definitely is enticing.
That surprises me a little; I would think that plain Debian would be better for server use.
For me its the packages are very up to date, when your compiling a lot of ruby stuff its very helpful. Also just as a dev machine using several year old packages makes it very difficult to compile stuff. Debian is more stable but ubumtu LTS is a good compromise for me.