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Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by georgemcbay » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:01 AM UTC

alexholehouse wrote: post #5

The cognitive leap to associate moving a mouse or keyboard (in your hand) with stuff going down on a screen is significant compared to just touching something you see and it moves. The former represents how we typically interact with a computer, the later how we interact with everything else. It's actually kind of amazing that Apple made both those interaction types - Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + s…

"Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + screen"

Are you shitting me?

Edit: Makes more sense with the 'affordable' qualifier though it is still debatable as a "FIRST".

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by HaloZero » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:03 AM UTC

Whenever I show a friend a Kindle, their first instinct is to try to turn the page or click a menu option. I think for adults we just assume all electronics are touch screens now.

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:05 AM UTC

jodrellblank wrote: post #10

alexholehouse wrote: post #5

The cognitive leap to associate moving a mouse or keyboard (in your hand) with stuff going down on a screen is significant compared to just touching something you see and it moves. The former represents how we typically interact with a computer, the later how we interact with everything else. It's actually kind of amazing that Apple made both those interaction types - Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + s…

Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + screen I raise you Douglas Englebart and a decade earlier.

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Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by grannyg00se » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:05 AM UTC

To say she thinks the magazine is a broken iPad is quite a leap. There is nothing to indicate that she thinks it is an iPad. And there is nothing to indicate that she thinks it is "broken".

She is simply trying familiar gestures on a similar looking media.

Give her magazines for the next couple of days and you may find she tries to turn the iPad over looking for other pages. It's not because she thinks the iPad is a broken magazine. It's simple familiarity. First we try what we know. Failing that, we begin to experiment.

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by georgemcbay » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:07 AM UTC

Notice that the kid is interacting with the magazine outside but the iPad inside.

Ergo, the iPad is a magazine that is broken when you try to use it outside in the sunlight.

(This is mostly a joke, but if we want to go assigning meaning willy-nilly to these videoclips, this one fits too).

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by dot » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:10 AM UTC

The other day I was reading a printed version of the NY Times and I caught myself trying to flick scroll a column with my index finger once I reached the fold.

It made me smile.

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by alexholehouse » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:11 AM UTC

georgemcbay wrote: post #11

alexholehouse wrote: post #5

The cognitive leap to associate moving a mouse or keyboard (in your hand) with stuff going down on a screen is significant compared to just touching something you see and it moves. The former represents how we typically interact with a computer, the later how we interact with everything else. It's actually kind of amazing that Apple made both those interaction types - Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + s…

"Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + screen" Are you shitting me? Edit: Makes more sense with the 'affordable' qualifier though it is still debatable as a "FIRST".

I'm actually quoting Steve Wozniak, but sorry, I should have made clear I meant for an affordable consumer device. Apologies.

Edit: No doubt, to be totally honest it's not an area I really know too much about, I just have Steve shouting "THE FIRST" engraved in my memory from a few years ago...

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by sp332 » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:13 AM UTC

ethank wrote: post #4

My kid tries to pinch zoom everything. Laptops, books, television remotes.

You have to admit, the discoverability of pinch-to-zoom is almost nonexistant. It's impossible to tell if something supports it without trying.

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by techdemic » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:14 AM UTC

What does a one-year old do on an iPad (or other tablet for that matter)?

For those who are parents--are there certain apps/games you let your young ones play around on? Or, is the behavior demonstrated by the child in the video learned primarily by way of observation?

Re: One year old thinks magazine is a broken iPad

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Post by alexholehouse » Fri, Oct 14, 2011, 1:16 AM UTC

jodrellblank wrote: post #10

alexholehouse wrote: post #5

The cognitive leap to associate moving a mouse or keyboard (in your hand) with stuff going down on a screen is significant compared to just touching something you see and it moves. The former represents how we typically interact with a computer, the later how we interact with everything else. It's actually kind of amazing that Apple made both those interaction types - Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + s…

Apple 2 was THE FIRST time you had a keyboard + screen I raise you Douglas Englebart and a decade earlier.

Yeah sorry - I clearly should have said in terms of an affordable easy-to-use device for the masses (the same being true for the iPhone/iPad).

Edit: Just went a found Engelbart's lecture at Stanford - it's incredible http://sloan.stanford.edu/MouseSite/1968Demo.html