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HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by hef19898 »

brasic wrote: post #117
zomglings wrote: post #38

I apologize in advance for the profanity. This really pissed me off. FUCK you HackerRank, for even entertaining the notion of litigating open source projects at scale for no good reason. FUCK you for taking down the the documentation for a harmless open source symbolic mathematics engine without any justification that I can see. What content of your shitty ranking company could SymPy possibly have infringed on? Also…

> your DMCA policy to take down the repository without even a standby period (perhaps with a warning?). See https://github.com/github/dmca/pull/10944 : > Before disabling any content in relation to this takedown notice, GitHub > - contacted the owners of some or all of the affected repositories to give them an opportunity to make changes. > - provided information on how to submit a DMCA Counter Notice. (Disclosure: I…

>> > - contacted the owners of some or all of the affected repositories to give them an opportunity to make changes.

This implies that GitHub is believing the DCMA notice is justified in the first place...

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by rootlocus »

Karupan wrote: post #275

What scares me the most about this story is how easily it could've been a small software shop running their entire operations on GitHub getting DCMA'd without any merit, and just losing access to an important repo within 24 hours. And imagine they don't know about Hacker News. Or they posted something which didn't get enough upvotes for the offending company to respond and resolve it quickly. As a software developer,…

Git is a distributed VCS, everyone has a clone of the repo, and at least one person has the latest main branch.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by dnqla »

travisoliphant wrote: post #61
rvivek wrote: post #37

Hello, I'm Vivek, founder/CEO of HackerRank. Our intention with this initiative is to takedown plagiarized code snippets or solutions to company assessments. This was definitely an unintended consequence. We are looking into it ASAP and also going to do an RCA to ensure this doesn't happen again. Sorry, everyone! EDIT: update here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31092085

Thanks for showing up here and replying. I can understand the net being cast too wide for a real problem you are trying to solve. It does have real consequences for already under-resourced communities, though. I appreciate the "fix-it-twice" attitude implied by the RCA promise (Root Cause Analysis for those who also had to look it up). Also, consider recognition and restitution for the unnecessary work you created fo…

> A $25k donation to NumFOCUS would be a good start.

Most of which will go to director's salaries. What do these directors do apart from harassing conference members?

https://www.fast.ai/2020/10/28/code-of-conduct/

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by philderbeast »

mfitzp wrote: post #286
rmbyrro wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here, know lots of developers in the same boat.

HackerRank - the #1 way to find developers with zero self respect

also the #1 way to weed out self important idiots.

bad hacker rank tests are bad, but not all hacker rank tests are bad.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by leaflets2 »

bigiain wrote: post #219
rvivek wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is fucking happening.

Now that you've been called out publicly... What are you doing about all the other bogus DMCA claims you company has sent (itself or via its external contractors)? What are you doing to ensure this never happens again? Why should we believe your answers, and how can we see concrete evidence that you've stopped doing this and made up for all the times you've done it in that past?

It would be interesting to know, in comparison, how high the fees are to the company that sends the DMCA takedown requests

And how much it costs to defend oneself against such a request

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by GordonS »

not2b wrote: post #106
djrogers wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can legally reinstate the pages with a simple counter-claim / attestation though, but they don’t seem to have implemented that feature of the DMCA yet.

They have to wait 10 days if the people who filed the notice don't respond.

Which is hardly fair if the takedown notice doesn't even have information you'd need to respond - like what exactly is meant to be the infringing content.

Also, the claimant allowing one business day (whatever that even means, given the scummy company is in Pakistan and the scummy hiring company is in the US, and the alleged infringees are all over the place!) is quite obviously ridiculous.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by tolapatola »

Karupan wrote: post #275

What scares me the most about this story is how easily it could've been a small software shop running their entire operations on GitHub getting DCMA'd without any merit, and just losing access to an important repo within 24 hours. And imagine they don't know about Hacker News. Or they posted something which didn't get enough upvotes for the offending company to respond and resolve it quickly. As a software developer,…

Why did github disable the whole website when a single page was reported? From the other notices I see that there are specific files which get removed. Doesn't even make sense

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by leaflets2 »

vmception wrote: post #178
rvivek wrote: post #37

Hello, I'm Vivek, founder/CEO of HackerRank. Our intention with this initiative is to takedown plagiarized code snippets or solutions to company assessments. This was definitely an unintended consequence. We are looking into it ASAP and also going to do an RCA to ensure this doesn't happen again. Sorry, everyone! EDIT: update here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31092085

"Design an automated DMCA takedown algorithm in 40 minutes"

   For ch: char in solution.text:
     If webpage.html.indexOf(ch) >= 0 then 
      DMCAReq.send()
     End
   End
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