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HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by kingcharles »

brasic wrote: post #151
jeroenhd wrote: post #74

Not the first time they've taken down Github repos, some with a legal basis (partial problem text, though Fair Use might overrule that if the cases ever made it to court), others with no involvement at all ( https://github.com/egfx/React-Leaderboard still hasn't been restored, for example) More information about previous DMCA abuse here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29239594 Personally, I would not trust a co…

Part of the DMCA takedown process is: > A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed. Has this penalty ever been enforced?

The problem is that the penalty requires prosecution by a federal district attorney. I've never managed to get a DA to prosecute perjury. I even filed a complaint against a DA once when they perjured themselves in writing. It was ruled "accidental perjury" and the case was dropped. [note: perjury has an intent element, you can't accidentally perjure yourself]

Also, the above statement is vague. The perjury clause only applies to the final clause which states that the person making the request has the authority of the rights holder. It doesn't apply to the first clause stating that the information is accurate?

I haven't read the DMCA statute in years, so I don't know if the wording in that clause parrots the wording of the statute.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by oars »

rvivek wrote: post #159

Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…

Hi Vivek, why was the DMCA filed in the first place?

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by p5a0u9l »

orangepurple wrote: post #165
Andoryuuta wrote: post #8

This same DMCA company (WorthIT Solutions) previously tried to DMCA the php docs range function page on behalf of HackerRank [0]. Pretty crazy. [0]: https://www.mail-archive.com/php-webmaster@lists.php.net/msg...

Not only that but the ENTIRE TEAM SECTION ON THEIR WEBSITE (worthitsolutions.co) IS A BLATANT LIE. Not one of those people is real. Every single biography link leads to Lorem Ipsum. It's a shady, secretive sweatshop operating out of Lahore, Pakistan.

Yup, and a couple of the stock photos of "Our team" are duplicates. Crazy. How does an outfit like this get hired?

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by utkugenc »

johnsillings wrote: post #155
kristianov wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

0. Dissolve HackerRank. All things considered, this company has done net negative impact to tech industry.

Why?

Because it is a leech of a company. It can get away with it until something like that happens. Which part don't you understand?

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by jaysonqpt »

HackeRank sends pretty nasty DMCA requests.

I recently received one from a Pakistani company hired by HackerRank. The material in question was a simple blog entry on a well known programming problem and its solution. The problem is DMCA doesn't provide any way to fight these fake requests and Google simply removes the content until you send a counter notification and wait for over 2 weeks.

DMCA should have a provision that if a company is misusing DMCA at large-scale, their requests should go through additional validation.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by travisoliphant »

rvivek wrote: post #159

Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…

Thank you for stepping up and taking this seriously and quickly helping to restore the SymPy Documentation to the internet.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by jaysonqpt »

rvivek wrote: post #159

Hello again, Vivek, founder/CEO here. In the interest of moving swiftly, here are the actions we are going to take: (1) We have withdrawn the DMCA notice for sympy; Sent a note to senior leadership in Github to act on this quickly. (2) We have stopped the whole DMCA process for now and working on internal guidelines of what constitutes a real violation so that these kind of incidents don't happen. We are going to do…

Hey Vivek,

I have received fake DMCA requests from WorthIT Solutions, Pakistan that you guys seems to have hired. It is sent for a simple blog entry discussing about programming algorithm!

I recommend training them or replacing them.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by __app_dev__ »

smabie wrote: post #138
__app_dev__ wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well said!! Personally, I like designing and building software and have been doing so for 20+ years but after doing several HakerRank and Leetcode style interviews it makes me wish to do something else. I’ve had FAANG recruiters tell me “study for hours per day for a few months” and then you can be ready. Even smaller companies focus on leetcode more than actual experience. I’ve worked with plenty of optimal algorith…

> No other well-paid profession tolerates this style of interview one you have experience. Not exactly true, pretty common in finance/trading as well.

Difference with trading though is someone is a great trader at one hedge fund they can jump ship pretty easy without hurdles. In fact they compete to get good traders.

For Software Engineering you have to jump through hurdles each time even if you have accomplished a lot at past jobs. I might be wrong but it feels like there are far more Software Engineers compared to jobs than 10 or 20 years ago.

Granted not all software jobs as the last one I got I just had to interview a CEO and show my portfolio. Seems like the algo challenges are really geared toward Silicon Valley but not it's ending up a lot of tech jobs.

Re: HackerRank (YC S11) DMCA'ed the SymPy Docs [fixed]

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Post by timkpaine »

I don't remember all the details, but one time at "a very large US Bank", a surveillance contractor saw "@largebank.com" email addresses in the public archives of an apache listserv and issued some type of takedown.

Apache responded by blocking all access from the bank's IPs including mirrors/other critical stuff...oops!

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