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Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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Desperately need a bundle type offering. I wouldn't pay $5 x 5 different subscriptions, but I'd do a $10 bundle for 4 newsletters, or the like.

I strongly disagree. Their focus should continue to be 100% on making it possible for their authors to make a living. Anything else is a distraction. Bundling, while a possible option to help this, is probably a distraction at this point, and could also muddy the waters, in terms of the Substack/Author relationship.

Getting more money out of my pocket helps their authors make a living.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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Name a single such law passed in the past 4 years in the US? (Laws regulating the curricula of state-funded public schools don't count. Not using taxpayer money to support a view ≠ impinging on the right of private citizens and organizations to express that view with their own resources and funds)

I will ignore the bizarre exception you are making for "Laws regulating the curricula of state-funded public schools" because I can still point to other examples. Here is a law that passed this month in Florida that dictates what topics employers can discuss in diversity training programs.[1] [1] - https://www.natlawreview.com/article/florida-s-stop-woke-act...

It's not a bizarre exception, it's completely normal. If a math teacher tells their students that 2+2=5, it's not an assault on free speech to fire the teacher.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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I think the appeal of Substack can be seen by comparison to their closest big competitor, Medium: 1. Substack pages load quickly and cleanly. You don't have to watch your browser have a seizure as it brings in a long tail of weird ad/tracking crap. 2. The page is very low-distraction. The writing is given pride of place. 3. I hit paywalls and login walls on Medium much more often than on Substack. 4. I know many inte…

The paywall one is huge for me. I know Medium is a business, but the paywall hits you so fast. For a lot of the articles I'm reading, I'm not very invested in reading them (think "this looks interesting, I'll take 5 to look it over"), so blocking me with a paywall isn't going to get me to pay, it just keeps me from interacting with your site and content.

The first two points are also important! I love reading articles on substack. It's fast, it's clean, I know I'll be able to get to the article, read it, and maybe sub if I want to read more of the author's work. It's a great experience. Medium is the opposite. It feels slower, and if the article happens to not be interesting, I feel annoyed because I used up one of my free articles. It's bad enough that I now actively avoid Medium if I can.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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I will ignore the bizarre exception you are making for "Laws regulating the curricula of state-funded public schools" because I can still point to other examples. Here is a law that passed this month in Florida that dictates what topics employers can discuss in diversity training programs.[1] [1] - https://www.natlawreview.com/article/florida-s-stop-woke-act...

It's not a bizarre exception, it's completely normal. If a math teacher tells their students that 2+2=5, it's not an assault on free speech to fire the teacher.

I like how you challenged me to listed an example thinking none existed, I list an example, and then you completely ignored that I did. You didn't even try to weasel out of it by saying that example doesn't qualify, just fully 100% ignored that I proved you wrong.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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post #164

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It's not a bizarre exception, it's completely normal. If a math teacher tells their students that 2+2=5, it's not an assault on free speech to fire the teacher.

I like how you challenged me to listed an example thinking none existed, I list an example, and then you completely ignored that I did. You didn't even try to weasel out of it by saying that example doesn't qualify, just fully 100% ignored that I proved you wrong.

I didn't "weasel out" of anything, I didn't address a portion of your comment because I judged that another commenter had already said everything I would have said.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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I'm about halfway into his book. I'm not someone familiar with the education field so I just nod along during his discussions of the studies, but that introduction chapter was so good . I want to send it to everyone I know.

Make sure to spend a little extra time after reading this review of that book: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/book-review-the-cult-o... Also coincidentally on substack...

Because I can't resist reading a dialogue, I read this now. I appreciate the summary of the book as it's written but I break with it here:

"He wants a world where smart people and dull people have equally comfortable lives, and where intelligence can take its rightful place as one of many virtues which are nice to have but not the sole measure of your worth."

IMO the more accurate claim is that FDB wants everyone's lives to have an equally comfortable floor. Whatever happens after this floor gets established (by a state, or otherwise) is not his main concern... and in my view, at least, it'll be a very different world so what happens is less important argue about.

Alexander then writes as if FDB hates whenever meritocracy dictates anything, but to me the important point is that the meritocracy dictates the floor.

"... Teacher tourism might be a factor, but hardly justifies DeBoer's "charter schools are frauds, shut them down" perspective."

I think FDB wants to shut down charters because he recognizes that they're immoral, and public schools are simply what we're supposed to maintain for taking care of and educating our kids (at this moment in history.) It seems like Alexander is just saying "you're dreaming too big!"; in every era some people always exist to say this.

"Still, I worry that the title - The Cult Of Smart - might lead people to think there is a cult surrounding intelligence, when exactly the opposite is true."

What Alexander describes here is the reactionary progressive strain of anti-IQ that is only as strong as progressivism's enemies' focus on IQ. It's an inverse function; I don't think liberals actually care that much about less intelligent people, people with educational disabilities and so on.

"DeBoer not only wants to keep the whole prison-cum-meat-grinder alive and running, even after having proven it has no utility, he also wants to shut the only possible escape my future children will ever get unless I'm rich enough to quit work and care for them full time."

I had to skim this ending part. Maybe I missed it, but Alexander doesn't mention that: FDB wants to lower the dropout age to 12; Schools guarentee that kids get to have interactions with lots of other kids, even in very rural areas; Schools guarentee parents time to themselves, to not worry about keeping their kids safe. Aren't these important points?

Respectable and respectful review, but I am still with FDB in ethos.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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They are very pro free speech, so you tend to get more interesting (and potentially more heretical) writers compared to other platforms.

Could you provide a link or two of content that might be censored elsewhere? I am curious to read “banned literature”.

El Gato Malo, was banned from twitter for what was an innocuous post, probably for being 2 years ahead on the COVID narrative and used public data sources to refute the consensus on lockdowns.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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I think the appeal of Substack can be seen by comparison to their closest big competitor, Medium: 1. Substack pages load quickly and cleanly. You don't have to watch your browser have a seizure as it brings in a long tail of weird ad/tracking crap. 2. The page is very low-distraction. The writing is given pride of place. 3. I hit paywalls and login walls on Medium much more often than on Substack. 4. I know many inte…

The paywall one is huge for me. I know Medium is a business, but the paywall hits you so fast. For a lot of the articles I'm reading, I'm not very invested in reading them (think "this looks interesting, I'll take 5 to look it over"), so blocking me with a paywall isn't going to get me to pay, it just keeps me from interacting with your site and content. The first two points are also important! I love reading article…

The UI/UX stuff is in the mix for me, but I think the writer group is bottom line the biggest thing. To be honest, I still haven't paid for anybody's Substack, but if I were to pay for something, I can name a couple people I'd pay for on Substack. I have no idea who is on Medium that might be worth paying for.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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post #97

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> "Anti-censorship" is hugely unpopular with the mainstream intellectual community these days. I'd disagree. It's unpopular with left-leaning mainstream audiences , but among intellectuals who write for a living, I imagine that extra assurances of not getting kicked off the platform are rather attractive.

>It's unpopular with left-leaning mainstream audiences It is truly wild how HN often frames censorship as something coming purely from the left while ignoring the laws coming out of conservative state legislatures across the country. There is a wide spectrum of people both pushing for censorship and pushing against it.

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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post #166

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Make sure to spend a little extra time after reading this review of that book: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/book-review-the-cult-o... Also coincidentally on substack...

Because I can't resist reading a dialogue, I read this now. I appreciate the summary of the book as it's written but I break with it here: "He wants a world where smart people and dull people have equally comfortable lives, and where intelligence can take its rightful place as one of many virtues which are nice to have but not the sole measure of your worth." IMO the more accurate claim is that FDB wants everyone's l…

I think Alexander and I would agree wrt the floor. Saying "equally" was probably a mistake on Alexander's part.

>'FDB wants to lower the dropout age to 12; Schools guarentee that kids get to have interactions with lots of other kids, even in very rural areas; Schools guarentee parents time to themselves, to not worry about keeping their kids safe. Aren't these important points?'

Yes, but 5 - 12 is still a looong time for a kid. All those points are orthogonal to charters.

>'I think FDB wants to shut down charters because he recognizes that they're immoral [citation needed], and public schools are simply what we're supposed to maintain for taking care of and educating our kids (at this moment in history.) It seems like Alexander is just saying "you're dreaming too big!"; in every era some people always exist to say this."'

Personally, I'm very fond of Alexander's passage against public-schools-only near the end:

"I am so, so tired of socialists who admit that the current system is a helltopian torturescape, then argue that we must prevent anyone from ever being able to escape it. Who promise that once the last alternative is closed off, once the last nice green place where a few people manage to hold off the miseries of the world is crushed, why then the helltopian torturescape will become a lovely utopia full of rainbows and unicorns. If you can make your system less miserable, make your system less miserable! Do it before forcing everyone else to participate in it under pain of imprisonment if they refuse! Forcing everyone to participate in your system and then making your system something other than a meat-grinder that takes in happy children and spits out dead-eyed traumatized eighteen-year-olds who have written 10,000 pages on symbolism in To Kill A Mockingbird and had zero normal happy experiences - is doing things super, super backwards!"

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