The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
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Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#2Am I missing something with the whole "OpenID is hard" thing? As far as I've used it, OpenID has pretty much consisted of going through a fairly normal registration with the open ID provider, getting a login name url, and then just using that at sites that support openID.
At most, it's been marginally more complicated than a normal ID, but it saves me the trouble of creating yet another new account at every little site that seems like it might be interesting to check out for a few minutes.
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#3Am I missing something with the whole "OpenID is hard" thing? As far as I've used it, OpenID has pretty much consisted of going through a fairly normal registration with the open ID provider, getting a login name url, and then just using that at sites that support openID. At most, it's been marginally more complicated than a normal ID, but it saves me the trouble of creating yet another new account at every little si…
Yes, you're missing it because you are unable to move out of your personal perspective into the perspective of less computer capable people.
OpenID is hard and pointless. It deserves to die.
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#4Am I missing something with the whole "OpenID is hard" thing? As far as I've used it, OpenID has pretty much consisted of going through a fairly normal registration with the open ID provider, getting a login name url, and then just using that at sites that support openID. At most, it's been marginally more complicated than a normal ID, but it saves me the trouble of creating yet another new account at every little si…
This is the thing: the "yet another new account" thing isn't a problem for real users. Real users use the same damn user/pass on every site. This is terrible for their security, but it just works.
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#5Am I missing something with the whole "OpenID is hard" thing? As far as I've used it, OpenID has pretty much consisted of going through a fairly normal registration with the open ID provider, getting a login name url, and then just using that at sites that support openID. At most, it's been marginally more complicated than a normal ID, but it saves me the trouble of creating yet another new account at every little si…
Yes, you're missing it because you are unable to move out of your personal perspective into the perspective of less computer capable people. OpenID is hard and pointless. It deserves to die.
In all seriousness, though, what's the part that's such a stumbling block here (at least for anyone who is already computer literate enough to go through a normal user account creation)? I really fail to see why "now create an account you can use at any OpenID site" is so much of a problem compared to "create an account for this site". In my experience, the account creation is nearly the same, and the login procedure is nearly the same, so I have a hard time seeing where a problem would occur.
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#6This is about the winiest thing I've ever read with no real content.
"Unfortunately, excitement died off quickly as people remembered that they don't really give a shit about social networks."
Really? So, those 100 million or so for facebook myspace and orkut don't count?
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, you're missing it because you are unable to move out of your personal perspective into the perspective of less computer capable people. OpenID is hard and pointless. It deserves to die.
In all seriousness, though, what's the part that's such a stumbling block here (at least for anyone who is already computer literate enough to go through a normal user account creation)? I really fail to see why "now create an account you can use at any OpenID site" is so much of a problem compared to "create an account for this site". In my experience, the account creation is nearly the same, and the login procedure…
I don't know because I never created an open id account. The reason I never created one is because when I want to sign up, I just want to select a user name and password, not try to locate an open id.
Are you aware that most people using computers don't know how to copy and paste? OpenID requires copy and paste, and that kills it on arrival.
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#8I couldnt have said it better. Get past the whining and hyperbole... but try and prove anything he said wrong.
OpenID- pipe dream. Clickpass is the only shot of making it work.
OpenSocial- Anyone actually make real live open social apps? Anyone making a real business or gain with them? At least facebook apps were able to do that for a good while.
Gears- Not sure why this is lobbed in there, except for the fact it isn't too widely implemented.
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#9I couldnt have said it better. Get past the whining and hyperbole... but try and prove anything he said wrong. OpenID- pipe dream. Clickpass is the only shot of making it work. OpenSocial- Anyone actually make real live open social apps? Anyone making a real business or gain with them? At least facebook apps were able to do that for a good while. Gears- Not sure why this is lobbed in there, except for the fact it isn…
Gears will win out of the sheer will of force -- a.k.a Google's war chest. Considering that it's only been in development for about a year makes calling a pipe dream premature.
OpenSocial and Android both plays the heel to the the bigger and better counterparts. But like all things in life, it's much better to have decent alternative than none at all. They may not ever achieve dominant positioning but they don't have to, no one will outright give up on them.
OpenID is just weird but god bless those folks that keep wanting to get a crack with this.
Re: The Register slams OpenSocial, OpenID and Google Gears - "destined for the dustbin"
#10I couldnt have said it better. Get past the whining and hyperbole... but try and prove anything he said wrong. OpenID- pipe dream. Clickpass is the only shot of making it work. OpenSocial- Anyone actually make real live open social apps? Anyone making a real business or gain with them? At least facebook apps were able to do that for a good while. Gears- Not sure why this is lobbed in there, except for the fact it isn…
Gears will win out of the sheer will of force -- a.k.a Google's war chest. Considering that it's only been in development for about a year makes calling a pipe dream premature. OpenSocial and Android both plays the heel to the the bigger and better counterparts. But like all things in life, it's much better to have decent alternative than none at all. They may not ever achieve dominant positioning but they don't have…
My first reaction was "no - gears has been out for ages"... but no, you're totally right.
Gears + Android might be an interesting play for Google as well. http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008/03/power-up-you...