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Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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>It's unpopular with left-leaning mainstream audiences It is truly wild how HN often frames censorship as something coming purely from the left while ignoring the laws coming out of conservative state legislatures across the country. There is a wide spectrum of people both pushing for censorship and pushing against it.

What is insane is when people frame anti-censorship as an alt-right value. That offends people like me who are staunchly liberal but completely anti-censorship to my core.

It's so pervasive that you can't even have an anti-censorship opinions on Reddit without getting lumped in with the alt-right and banned from subreddits. The nuance of "I disagree with you but defend your right to say it" is dying a painful death. Defend free speech and get accused of being alt-right or wanting to say the n-word.

Another thing dying is the defense of protests. I made a couple comments in popular Canadian subreddits about the truckers and was banned from a few for saying "protest isn't meant to make people feel happy and if the protestors don't make you feel uncomfortable you either agree with them or they're not doing their job". I got banned from one with the reason being "be gone nazi scum go try parler".

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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Many writers like them because they seem to have made both costly and cheap signals to show that they are on the side of writers: (1) they say they are "anti-censorship" and won't evict writers from their "private platform" (2) they let the writer own their audience / mailing list (so they can leave with their audience, if they want to) (3) they advanced money to popular writers These things with the addition of a si…

> they say they are "anti-censorship" and won't evict writers from their "private platform" "Anti-censorship" is hugely unpopular with the mainstream intellectual community these days. It's close to being a dog whistle for the alt-right. I'm surprised this is a stance that would attract more "excellent writers".

Do you have any sources that indicate anti-censorship is “hugely unpopular” with the mainstream intellectual community? For example, esteemed scientists speaking out against it?

It may be important here to separate journalists and political activists from the intellectual community. Not to say that they aren’t intellectuals, but the issue could be limited to that set of intellectuals in particular.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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They are very pro free speech, so you tend to get more interesting (and potentially more heretical) writers compared to other platforms.

Could you provide a link or two of content that might be censored elsewhere? I am curious to read “banned literature”.

Matt Taibbi recently started a substack for anti-war Russian journalists whose work had been censored in Russia.

https://russiandissent.substack.com/

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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I'm one of the Substack founders. My (obviously biased) view is that we are trying to do something that is genuinely important, and that we're willing to sweat the details in service of the people who use Substack. I'll try to give that quick barbell of lofty vision and practical details.

Big picture: we believe that what you read matters, and that therefore great writing (and great intellectual culture in general) is valuable. In our view the great promise of the internet is that it can unlock a flourishing of culture, but the first phase was dominated by a land-grab for attention which gave us the current landscape of ad-driven platforms which optimize for the wrong things and don't serve great writing. Substack is an attempt to create an alternate universe on the internet, with different laws of physics, that fulfills the original promise. Where writers can make real money by earning and keeping the trust of an audience who deeply values their work. Where readers can take back their mind, and decide for themselves who to trust and how to spend their attention.

Practical terms: we try to focus really hard on serving the people that use Substack. The writers, obviously, by giving them something that genuinely works. I think of this as "we do everything for you except the hard part". Which means if you can write something great, the job of the product is to handle the rest. This means not just the right features, but smart defaults everywhere that help you succeed. For readers, we try to make the experience very clean and frictionless, and communicate right from the get-go that this is a place that respects you and your attention, to the point that it might be worth paying for. The things others have noted - smart defaults, fast loading, clean design, etc. etc. are expressions of this. We're focused serving people, and we're not shy about using 'boring' technology (like email, for example) to make it happen.

Putting this together, the magic of the Substack model is not that it gives writers a way to get paid for doing the thing they might have done elsewhere. It creates a system where the kind of thing you do to succeed is qualitatively different and better than what succeeds elsewhere. For writers, that can mean getting paid -- sometimes very handsomely -- to do the work you actually believe in. It can unlock this for people who weren't professional writers before. And for readers, it means a lot of the best writing to be found anywhere is on Substack.

That's the theory at least! We're hiring, by the way: https://substack.com/jobs

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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Many writers like them because they seem to have made both costly and cheap signals to show that they are on the side of writers: (1) they say they are "anti-censorship" and won't evict writers from their "private platform" (2) they let the writer own their audience / mailing list (so they can leave with their audience, if they want to) (3) they advanced money to popular writers These things with the addition of a si…

> they say they are "anti-censorship" and won't evict writers from their "private platform" "Anti-censorship" is hugely unpopular with the mainstream intellectual community these days. It's close to being a dog whistle for the alt-right. I'm surprised this is a stance that would attract more "excellent writers".

It's well-aligned with "writers own their audience" - together this positions substack as a platform for monetizing writing, not as more of a publisher.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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> "Anti-censorship" is hugely unpopular with the mainstream intellectual community these days. I'd disagree. It's unpopular with left-leaning mainstream audiences , but among intellectuals who write for a living, I imagine that extra assurances of not getting kicked off the platform are rather attractive.

>It's unpopular with left-leaning mainstream audiences It is truly wild how HN often frames censorship as something coming purely from the left while ignoring the laws coming out of conservative state legislatures across the country. There is a wide spectrum of people both pushing for censorship and pushing against it.

Some seem to think that "cancel culture" started 5 years ago as well. It's a strange position to take which indicates a near total lack of research into the topic.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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They signed a contract of their own free choice because it was a good deal for them. This isn't hidden. There's no reason to hide it any more than a musician would hide getting signed by a record label.

Did they mention that Substack paid them to post? I believe disclosure is a defining factor between astroturfing and "just" marketing/sales/paid promotions.

It's going to depend on the author and I only read a few of them, but some authors were quite transparent about the details of the deals they signed, much more than is usual for professional authors. For example:

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/financial-transparency

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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I think the appeal of Substack can be seen by comparison to their closest big competitor, Medium: 1. Substack pages load quickly and cleanly. You don't have to watch your browser have a seizure as it brings in a long tail of weird ad/tracking crap. 2. The page is very low-distraction. The writing is given pride of place. 3. I hit paywalls and login walls on Medium much more often than on Substack. 4. I know many inte…

I agree. Medium made the editor clean for writers but made the interface messy, cludgy and just a pain for readers.

Substack kept it clean for both.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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I will never give Medium a single dollar and big part of that is their lying paywall. It always says "Login to view the rest of the article" or something like that. After you login you have a 50-50 chance that it will say something like "you've reached the end of your free article limit" or some variation on that. Sometimes visiting the same link again will show you the content. It makes zero sense and pisses me off…

I, on the other hand, am happy to see a non advertising based business model and thus pay for medium and find it very good value for money compared to a newspaper.

Do you have specific writers or publications on Medium you frequently read? I’d also like to support a publishing platform that doesn’t rely on advertising but it’s never even occurred to me to pay for Medium because it seems like there would just be so much crap to sift through in order to find the good stuff.

Re: Ask HN: Why is Substack so popular?

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In addition to what everyone has said about Substack providing an incredibly easy-to-use platform for reaching readers with essentially no lock-in, they also provide the ability to produce podcasts.

A free service for running a mailing list and podcast with the ability to jump ship at any time (you can export your list from there) and the ability to flip a switch and start making money directly from your audience at a reasonable cost is all fantastic.

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