Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour) • Hacker News Board

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by rookiejet22 » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:45 PM UTC

channelmeter wrote: post #57

rookiejet22 wrote: post #24

IMO Ubuntu is poised to make a serious dent in the desktop market share. Maybe next year is finally going to be the year of the Linux desktop :).

The problem is distribution. Not many people outside the technical/hacker community are even aware what Linux is, let alone Ubuntu. They need to have more hardware partners that aggressively sell ultracheap laptops/machines. Furthermore these partners need more low entry sales channels like radio shack, walmart, target, or even CVS where more middle class consumers have access to these machines.

I agree. Unless there is a significant push by OEMs, the Linux desktop will never see wide adoption. I wonder what were the reasons for Dell pulling their Ubuntu based options in the US? Inability to provide support, or was it a push by its main OS provider.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by zalew » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:45 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #4

Try opening the Dash (top icon on the left) and you can browse apps. That's a really cool demo! Edit: You can also read and write (but not send) emails in Thunderbird, and emails you write show up in the "Sent" box.

and browse the web with firefox

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by Seth_Kriticos » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 6:05 PM UTC

aw3c2 wrote: post #39

jemka wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Figures there would be a gripe about an OPERATING SYSTEM demo in a WEB BROWSER. Shame on them. Install Ubuntu. Let that be your first impression. I'm sure it will fit your screen.

His complaint is very valid in my opinion. Imagine Granny Smith being sent to that page and opening it on her 1024x768 notebook.

1024x768 is dead. 1366x768 is pretty common actually on lower end laptops.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by forgottenpaswrd » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 6:10 PM UTC

It seems they fast prototyped unity using web.

There are two things that I can't stand about it on a real laptop:

1)When you maximize files folders, and it seems it is default, the desktop icons occlude the links on the file browser, and is SO UGLY.

2)My laptop hangs when I try to restore compiz with --restore. I really miss the 3d cube.

So I'm downloading fedora or anything that makes it usable again.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by kin » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 6:29 PM UTC

Wow I haven't looked at Ubuntu since Gutsy. This demo certainly makes me want to give it a whirl again. Before I spend hours playing with it, can anyone clue me in on its media performance (playing flash videos, dual screen, music software, etc.)

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by udp » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 6:31 PM UTC

forgottenpaswrd wrote: post #64

It seems they fast prototyped unity using web. There are two things that I can't stand about it on a real laptop: 1)When you maximize files folders, and it seems it is default, the desktop icons occlude the links on the file browser, and is SO UGLY. 2)My laptop hangs when I try to restore compiz with --restore. I really miss the 3d cube. So I'm downloading fedora or anything that makes it usable again.

> So I'm downloading fedora or anything that makes it usable again.

Good luck with that - Fedora uses GNOME 3 by default.

It seems the only WM I'm personally happy with nowadays is XFCE.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by selectnull » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 6:35 PM UTC

Awesome demo. I kinda got scared when I saw that I'm logged in with my google account, inside firefox browser inside the demo...

Until I figured it out: it's an iframe. Brilliant for a demo, kudos to the team for the idea and implementation.

Naturally, I'm posting this from inside the demo. :)

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 7:01 PM UTC

rookiejet22 wrote: post #61

channelmeter wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is distribution. Not many people outside the technical/hacker community are even aware what Linux is, let alone Ubuntu. They need to have more hardware partners that aggressively sell ultracheap laptops/machines. Furthermore these partners need more low entry sales channels like radio shack, walmart, target, or even CVS where more middle class consumers have access to these machines.

I agree. Unless there is a significant push by OEMs, the Linux desktop will never see wide adoption. I wonder what were the reasons for Dell pulling their Ubuntu based options in the US? Inability to provide support, or was it a push by its main OS provider.

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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by jemka » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 7:12 PM UTC

nodata wrote: post #36

jemka wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't empathize? You can't give them a little slack? They didn't spend enough time testing the demo of the OS on a browser for your liking? They were probably busy building an operating system. If their core competency was website building, you would have a point. But in this case you're just being pedant.

No, I'm saying I can't do the tour because it doesn't fit in my browser. Most potential users would just go away at that point. Instead of just going away, I mentioned it here so someone can know.

>Most potential users would just go away at that point.

Most?

You viewed the demo with the intention of checking out the OS. This isn't the only way to check out an OS. In fact, this method is relatively the first of its kind. The first time you probably ever saw a demo like this. It doesn't work so you give up on any other method? Screenshots? Live CD? Writeups on blogs. You know, all the ways you normally "tour" an OS. And ultimately you give up on the OS entirely? Any SERIOUS potential user will find other ways of checking out the OS. Like we've done with every other OS in the past.

I can't believe you're actually arguing this point.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by pork » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 7:12 PM UTC

kin wrote: post #65

Wow I haven't looked at Ubuntu since Gutsy. This demo certainly makes me want to give it a whirl again. Before I spend hours playing with it, can anyone clue me in on its media performance (playing flash videos, dual screen, music software, etc.)

All are much improved. Flash is now 64-bit stable, Banshee is decent for music, and I had plug and play with my dual screens on an nvidia gtx 550 with dvi and hdmi. The current crop of default apps is decent, albeit not perfect.