Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by smacktoward » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:08 PM UTC

Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser
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Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by ketralnis » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:39 PM UTC

This seems a bit overblown for what amounts to a performance bug in a feature that few people even use (bookmarks).

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by kemayo » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:41 PM UTC

I remember one of my co-workers telling me that Firefox was running great for him now that he'd upgraded from 4GB of RAM to 8GB. It finally wasn't slowly grinding to a halt any time he had more than a handful of tabs open for more than an hour or two.

Seemed a bit like Stockholm Syndrome to me.

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by kemayo » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:43 PM UTC

ketralnis wrote: post #2

This seems a bit overblown for what amounts to a performance bug in a feature that few people even use (bookmarks).

It's not just bookmarks. It's history and the location bar. He mentions that one of the things which triggers his crashes is using the back button, which is a feature that I think a reasonable number of people use.

(I can't say that I've seen such issues myself... but it's been quite a while since I used Firefox under Linux.)

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by Xurinos » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:44 PM UTC

ketralnis wrote: post #2

This seems a bit overblown for what amounts to a performance bug in a feature that few people even use (bookmarks).

By chance, can you point me to a proof of that usability point? All I have is anecdotal evidence to the contrary, but I have long wondered.

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by jroseattle » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:45 PM UTC

As a dev, FF was my go-to utility browser due to Firebug. Google released Chrome, and I found myself using FF rarely.

I rebuilt a laptop recently. After loading it up with software, it was a good 3 weeks before I even noticed that I didn't have FF installed.

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by crikli » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:46 PM UTC

Here here!

I've completely given up on Firefox on my MBP (3.06 Core2, 8GB, 480GB SSD). Between the egregious javascript memory leak and constantly increasing resource utilization it's just unusable. And my fans are running full tilt within 60 seconds of starting it.

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by pjriot » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:49 PM UTC

ketralnis wrote: post #2

This seems a bit overblown for what amounts to a performance bug in a feature that few people even use (bookmarks).

Do people not use bookmarks? I have thousands of them. What are the alternatives that I'm missing out on? (big xmarks user too so sync is a must)

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by AdamGibbins » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:54 PM UTC

pjriot wrote: post #8

ketralnis wrote: post #2

This seems a bit overblown for what amounts to a performance bug in a feature that few people even use (bookmarks).

Do people not use bookmarks? I have thousands of them. What are the alternatives that I'm missing out on? (big xmarks user too so sync is a must)

I store all my bookmarks in http://pinboard.in, much better organisation, sorting, faster, cross-os, cross-browser.

Re: Dear Mozilla: Fix Your Damn Browser

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Post by alphadogg » Thu, Oct 13, 2011, 5:55 PM UTC

My FF, fully updated, works fine. I use Bookmarks extensively. What seems to occasionally crash it are things out of Mozilla's current control: poorly written extensions or Adobe Flash hangs.

Never even heard of needing to vaccuum the sqlite dbs.

FF is a fine browser. So, basically we have one anecdote for and one against, and neither is enough to pass judgement on a full and popular browser like FF.