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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by gldalmaso »

nodata wrote: post #36
jemka wrote: post #25

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You can't empathize? You can't give them a little slack? They didn't spend enough time testing the demo of the OS on a browser for your liking? They were probably busy building an operating system. If their core competency was website building, you would have a point. But in this case you're just being pedant.

No, I'm saying I can't do the tour because it doesn't fit in my browser. Most potential users would just go away at that point. Instead of just going away, I mentioned it here so someone can know.

It's the first time they've done this sort of demo. I betcha the next realeses will not have as many issues.

Release early, realease often.

Most potential users don't go through the effort of downloading and running a live cd/usb. The web demo is a major hook, it just needs a couple iterations to be perfected. That is the way of the open source.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by notatoad »

aw3c2 wrote: post #39
jemka wrote: post #15

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Figures there would be a gripe about an OPERATING SYSTEM demo in a WEB BROWSER. Shame on them. Install Ubuntu. Let that be your first impression. I'm sure it will fit your screen.

His complaint is very valid in my opinion. Imagine Granny Smith being sent to that page and opening it on her 1024x768 notebook.

granny smith doesn't install ubuntu. her kid does. no operating system will ever be suitable for installation by grandma, nor should it ever be.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by xentronium »

Maro wrote: post #50
fingerprinter wrote: post #35

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I would never use plain debian. security updates, support, broader user base, just to start. And Juju. Juju is going to be huge. https://juju.ubuntu.com/

"What is juju?" "Formerly called Ensemble, juju is DevOps DistilledTM. Through the use of charms (renamed from formulas), juju provides you with shareable, re-usable, and repeatable expressions of DevOps best practices. You can use them unmodified, or easily change and connect them to fit your needs. Deploying a charm is similar to installing a package on Ubuntu: ask for it and it’s there, remove it and it’s complete…

Sounds like puppet or chef with central community-maintained repository for formulas.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by Lukeas14 »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #38

This seems like a lot of effort for something that will be unnecessary and unused in a month. I mean, it's cool, but they already have infrastructure for "demoing" remote apps, they could have demo remote instances with websocketed/vnc (noVNC, very cool).

For any other OS I'd agree with you. But for Linux desktop, which has come so far in the past 5-10 years, this is exactly what they need to show people "Hey, our desktop doesn't suck anymore! You should try us out again."

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by channelmeter »

rookiejet22 wrote: post #24

IMO Ubuntu is poised to make a serious dent in the desktop market share. Maybe next year is finally going to be the year of the Linux desktop :).

The problem is distribution. Not many people outside the technical/hacker community are even aware what Linux is, let alone Ubuntu. They need to have more hardware partners that aggressively sell ultracheap laptops/machines. Furthermore these partners need more low entry sales channels like radio shack, walmart, target, or even CVS where more middle class consumers have access to these machines.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by hasenj »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #38

This seems like a lot of effort for something that will be unnecessary and unused in a month. I mean, it's cool, but they already have infrastructure for "demoing" remote apps, they could have demo remote instances with websocketed/vnc (noVNC, very cool).

They actually tried something like that for 11.04, but it was horrible.

This is way cooler, it just works.

Yea, it's a lot of effort, but I think it's worth it.

Re: Ubuntu 11.10 Released (Online Tour)

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Post by jcastro »

xentronium wrote: post #54
Maro wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What is juju?" "Formerly called Ensemble, juju is DevOps DistilledTM. Through the use of charms (renamed from formulas), juju provides you with shareable, re-usable, and repeatable expressions of DevOps best practices. You can use them unmodified, or easily change and connect them to fit your needs. Deploying a charm is similar to installing a package on Ubuntu: ask for it and it’s there, remove it and it’s complete…

Sounds like puppet or chef with central community-maintained repository for formulas.

juju is service orchestration, not configuration management, we think of it as a level above CM.

Basically instead of configuring machines you say "I want wordpress" or "I want cassandra". People have been using the term "apt for the cloud".

Here's a quick demo (out of date, but the idea is the same): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8IKkWJj7bA

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