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Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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Post by ivanhoe »

dejw wrote: post #343
ivanhoe wrote: post #342

IMHO this is doing completely the opposite of the intended effect, because the concept is focused only on pleasing the content consumers, but it completely misses the point of what the content creators need and want out of it. And without content creators you have nothing. The influencers are the ones who post in regular periods because it's a job for them, while ordinary people post whenever they find something inte…

What? Opposite of intended effect for who? Platform owners or users? Most of us, users, want to get less but more relevant information.

Opposite of the idea that it's built "for friends, and not for influencers". One post per week is how influencers operate in order to create a sustainable flow of repetitive visits, not ordinary people posting just for fun.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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Post by jimkleiber »

thr0wawayf00 wrote: post #114
jimkleiber wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I've been yearning for platforms really to just let me control the database query, basically. I want to be able to create custom filters/sorts/queries, or even choose some from an algorithm store, that lets me control how I view things. For example, on Twitter, I love having the "latest tweets" option. But maybe I want to also have "only tweets from verified people with over 100 retweets from other verified peop…

> Does it really just unleash too much power in the hands of the users and make these companies afraid what might happen? Social media companies spend incredible resources trying to continuously improve the stickiness of the app so users keep coming back to it. Giving users total control over curation creates two big problems for this. 1) if I can cut out all of the BS in the feed, I can utilize the app more passivel…

> 1) if I can cut out all of the BS in the feed, I can utilize the app more passively which likely reduces overall usage. I would try to get my social media into a weekly feed, which is not compatible with the business social media companies are trying to run. It's all about DAU's.

Fair point, some may use it much less. Ironically, I might use it even more, because now I can explore more. Being given only one path can bore me at times. Sometimes I want to choose my own path. I absolutely loved the Facebook Graph Search, but then it vanished and I'm back to just hoping that Facebook gives me what I want instead of letting me dive deeper. In other words, I spend a ton of time on Wikipedia rabbit holes even without an algorithm that tries to predict what I want.

> 2) total curation makes researching and optimizing the UX for eyeballs more difficult because you introduce an entirely new set of variables into the equation.

Ah, yeah, I agree with this. Fewer variables make it easier to run social experiments and behavioral research.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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Post by jimkleiber »

d110af5ccf wrote: post #260
jimkleiber wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That works for the consumption side, but at least from what I've seen (it's been a while), the feed readers don't have so much share/comment/like side to them. Frankly, they seem to miss the social side. Again, maybe I'm just not using the right feed readers, but when I use some these days, they feel somewhat isolated, just receiving info, not also sending it.

Many sites including HN ( https://news.ycombinator.com/rss ) provide RSS feeds, so you could presumably navigate to the relevant page for the share/comment/like functionality. I realize that's not ideal but it seems well within reason to me. Software exists to translate RSS feeds to ActivityPub actors (ex https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub ). Going the other direction, Pleroma provides RSS feeds. Not sure…

> so you could presumably navigate to the relevant page for the share/comment/like functionality. I realize that's not ideal but it seems well within reason to me.

Oh yeah, I could. I guess I'm just believing more and more in the power of a familiar interface. I feel somewhat comfortable hopping around different sites and creating all sorts of accounts (on my computer, less so on my phone), yet I imagine many really don't want that hassle. If the comment box were the same everywhere, that could help, but still, I find sometimes if it takes that extra effort, I often won't do it.

> Software exists to translate RSS feeds to ActivityPub actors (ex https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub). Going the other direction, Pleroma provides RSS feeds.

I may check it out for some of my sites, thank you.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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Post by jimkleiber »

derekzhouzhen wrote: post #182
jimkleiber wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That works for the consumption side, but at least from what I've seen (it's been a while), the feed readers don't have so much share/comment/like side to them. Frankly, they seem to miss the social side. Again, maybe I'm just not using the right feed readers, but when I use some these days, they feel somewhat isolated, just receiving info, not also sending it.

Shameless plug: Airss does that. https://airss.roastidio.us The reader can be used without login. To comment and share, you need to login to https://roastidio.us (free open registration) Warning: I have very few users. So you will still feel isolated, unless you can gather a community yourself.

Ooo, I like the concept. I just logged in and submitted one for this URL: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/18/world/ukraine-russia...

Two things come up for me:

1. I'm curious, how do you imagine people will discover there are comments on a specific URL? Will it show up in their browser? An embed that sites can use to show it on their site? Other?

2. I found that the name made me feel a little confused and hesitant to engage, because I didn't want to roast the article I submitted. I get the feeling you started in one direction and may be opening up, but I'm not sure.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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Post by nerdyadventurer »

CitrusFruits wrote: post #9

Hey everyone, OP here. I, like many others tend to waffle between loving and hating social media, so this is my take on what I think a better solution looks like. This is something I've been working on for the past couple of months and a concept that I think will be though provoking, if nothing else, to the HN community. If you want to read more on my thoughts and the story behind this, you can check out my blog post…

How do you plan to sustain this as user base grows? Ads, subscriptions, donations?

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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Post by tillcarlos »

I was eager to register, but reading the TOS - I'm not sure any more.

> You acknowledge and agree that any questions, comments, suggestions, ideas, feedback, or other information regarding the Site ("Submissions") provided by you to us are non-confidential and shall become our sole property.

Is this normal? To be honest: I haven't read the facebook TOS - but at the same time I don't post on facebook. If slowsocial owns all the stuff I'm sending out to my friends - I'd rather stay with my email newsletter.

What do you think about this?

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