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Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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> Perhaps if they followed their purported beliefs rather than their tribal nature?

The Old Testament is extremely tribal, and commanded the Chosen to exterminate several competing tribes. I'd rather it not be followed too closely:

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Numbers 21:3 The Lord gave the Canaanites over to Israel, who "completely destroyed them and their towns."

Numbers 31:17-18 God commanded Moses to kill all of the male Midianite children and "kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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As a Canadian who spends a considerable amount of time travelling to the US, the difference is fairly striking. Religion enters almost every conversation I have in the US in some way. Whereas in Canada, religion almost never comes up. If it does, it's generally a discussion on the merits where I'm talking more about history and culture. It's fascinating how two places, so geographically close can be so culturally dif…

I feel like you might be reversing the causality a bit and bringing religion into things because of that perception. I can't remember the last time I discussed religion with anybody in public as an American. Admittedly I live in a bubble that means that I'm not interacting with any fundamentalists or evangelicals but if you are coming from Canada you are probably in that some bubble.

I'm with you. I don't recognize the OP's description of US culture at all in the community where I live. Granted, I'm in Vermont, which is not at all typical, but it is also right next to Canada. I lived in Buffalo, also right next to Canada, and any public conversation about religion was scarce there as well. Perhaps the OP flies regularly to Arkansas?

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Unfortunately interfaith movements are considered fringe & suspicious for the Abrahamic religions, and this is unlikely to change anytime soon.

They are suspicious because the Abrahamic faiths all fundamentally disagree on core theological issues.

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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As a Canadian who spends a considerable amount of time travelling to the US, the difference is fairly striking. Religion enters almost every conversation I have in the US in some way. Whereas in Canada, religion almost never comes up. If it does, it's generally a discussion on the merits where I'm talking more about history and culture. It's fascinating how two places, so geographically close can be so culturally dif…

I lived many years in the US and almost nobody ever asked me about my religion or initiated a conversation about it.. I shared an apartment with a Canadian who used to ask me constantly about religion and how I prayed and when I prayed.. It was almost annoying!

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There's lots of interesting nuance in the actual survey report: https://angusreid.org/canada-religion-interfaith-holy-week/ Edit: Towards the bottom of the report is a matrix showing how the various religious groups feel about each other (net positive/negative). Some takeaways: * Jews and Hindus are the only groups that think positively about all the others * Catholics and Evangelicals are negative on the Jews * Evan…

It seems like you mixed up the columns, it's reversed...

> * Jews and Hindus are the only groups that think positively about all the others

Jewish people were negative on (mostly) Ev. Christians and Catholics

Hindus were negative on Catholics, Protestants, Ev Christians, and (mostly) Islam.

> * Catholics and Evangelicals are negative on the Jews

No group was majority negative on Jews

> * Evangelicals are negative on everyone else

Evangelicals were negative only on Islam, Sikhs, and (mostly) Atheists

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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There's lots of interesting nuance in the actual survey report: https://angusreid.org/canada-religion-interfaith-holy-week/ Edit: Towards the bottom of the report is a matrix showing how the various religious groups feel about each other (net positive/negative). Some takeaways: * Jews and Hindus are the only groups that think positively about all the others * Catholics and Evangelicals are negative on the Jews * Evan…

> Edit: Towards the bottom of the report is a matrix ..

You're reading it flipped. The columns define who they asked (hence it has a "Gen pop sample" entry), and the rows are their opinion of different religions. So Jews and Hindus are the only groups that all the others think positively of, not the other way around.

So Jewish people consider Catholicism negative (-15%), Protestantism positive (10%), and Evangelical Christianity strongly negative (-45%). Meanwhile Roman Catholics, Protestants, and Evangelical Christians all consider Judaism positively (13%, 26%, and 35%, respectively).

In other words, the group that considers Judaism most positively (Evangelical Christians, at 35%), is considered the most negative by Jews (-46%, tied for the lowest score in the matrix).

> If evangelicals are negative about everyone else, it makes sense that everyone else might be less enthusiastic about them too

The truth is quite a bit stranger :)

Re: Canadians consider certain religions damaging to society: survey

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As a Canadian who spends a considerable amount of time travelling to the US, the difference is fairly striking. Religion enters almost every conversation I have in the US in some way. Whereas in Canada, religion almost never comes up. If it does, it's generally a discussion on the merits where I'm talking more about history and culture. It's fascinating how two places, so geographically close can be so culturally dif…

> Religion enters almost every conversation I have in the US in some way.

I'm an American and this is very surprising to me. In fact, I find it difficult to believe. Can you give some examples?

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