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Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by xwdv »

tmountain wrote: post #29

Floridian here. I've lived here all my life, and DeSantis is the first Governor under whom I have felt that the entire agenda is piss off people who aren't politically aligned with his values. Not a week goes by without some inflammatory new policy making it into the news cycle, and it saddens me because Florida has a ton of problems that we could be collaborating on legislatively, but instead, it's just partisan bri…

And yet, blue state liberal democrats are clamoring to move to Florida. New Yorkers and Californians trying to escape their failed states with outrageous taxes, is it any wonder then that states like Florida and Texas are purposely trying to seem as unattractive as possible to these people. Way too many people in Florida these days.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by mezcaliente »

I found more information on the Florida Dept. of Education site: https://www.fldoe.org/academics/standards/instructional-mate...

This appears to be the list of the 132 books submitted for review: https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/5574/urlt/2021-22-S...

And this I believe is the list of books that were approved: https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/5574/urlt/2122MathA...

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by tmountain »

usrn wrote: post #55
tmountain wrote: post #29

Floridian here. I've lived here all my life, and DeSantis is the first Governor under whom I have felt that the entire agenda is piss off people who aren't politically aligned with his values. Not a week goes by without some inflammatory new policy making it into the news cycle, and it saddens me because Florida has a ton of problems that we could be collaborating on legislatively, but instead, it's just partisan bri…

That's a good thing. There are a number of mutually exclusive positions the left and right simply don't agree on. At this point the only way to achieve peace is if like minded people moved together and the ones that don't get along separate. That goes for California as well as Florida. It's painful in the short term but everyone will be happier long term. That's why it's the "United States " and not a "homogeneous na…

I take your point, but it elides a significant cohort of the population that doesn't have the financial resources to make such a choice. The proposed redistricting eliminates black/brown districts from the current electoral map, and those populations won't have the representation they have today as a result. A lot of these folks don't have the financial means to go elsewhere, so they're on the losing end with nowhere to go.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by agseward »

capableweb wrote: post #10

I can understand rejecting them for "failed to meet curriculum standards", but what does "incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies" really mean? Are there math topics and "stategies" that are illegal in the US/Florida somehow? I also understand that including critical race theory in math books seems wildly irrelevant (unless I miss something) and therefor not fit for the curriculum. But I'm interested…

Topics like sampling bias and adverse impact seem like they could fit that intersection between a math curriculum and "race, society, and law."

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by zozbot234 »

vmception wrote: post #33
muhehe wrote: post #4

Can someone simply explain what is this critical race theory?

basically anybody extending Black History month beyond 28 days and reminding people that black history is US history and that it doesn’t make sense to have any race-history months if US history was taught more accurately. (It includes other heritages too, Black American community is just more organized to more effectively spearhead representation pushes.) Conservatives news sources spend alot of air time on the idea…

> reminding people that black history is US history

Perhaps we should also remind people that there's plenty of black folks outside the U.S. too. U.S. history is only a tiny, even negligible fraction of history taken as a whole.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by jmcgough »

tmountain wrote: post #29

Floridian here. I've lived here all my life, and DeSantis is the first Governor under whom I have felt that the entire agenda is piss off people who aren't politically aligned with his values. Not a week goes by without some inflammatory new policy making it into the news cycle, and it saddens me because Florida has a ton of problems that we could be collaborating on legislatively, but instead, it's just partisan bri…

I found it really upsetting that, after an overwhelming number of Floridians voted to reinstate voting rights for some felons, DeSantis signed a law that prevented them from voting if they had any unpaid fees (Florida loves to bill convicts so most do).

Regardless of ones political stance, the ruthless drive to win at all costs is causing serious damage to our society.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by slowhand09 »

areoform wrote: post #21

Such news stories add credence to the idea that the web + social media have been a universal solvent for societies. Especially democratic societies. Three decades ago, such a move would have been an eyebrow raising 2 to 5 minute news story on the evening news. Or, mentioned in a tiny column in the newspaper on some page. Most people wouldn't have come into contact with it. Let alone with such vigor that it led to an…

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Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by vmception »

zozbot234 wrote: post #65
vmception wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

basically anybody extending Black History month beyond 28 days and reminding people that black history is US history and that it doesn’t make sense to have any race-history months if US history was taught more accurately. (It includes other heritages too, Black American community is just more organized to more effectively spearhead representation pushes.) Conservatives news sources spend alot of air time on the idea…

> reminding people that black history is US history Perhaps we should also remind people that there's plenty of black folks outside the U.S. too. U.S. history is only a tiny, even negligible fraction of history taken as a whole.

Why? We are talking about Black Americans and US history.

The post was pretty clear about which subsets we are talking about, the adjectives used (black American) were very intentional.

We have international history courses as well. Most countries focus on their own history for sake of time.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by usrn »

tmountain wrote: post #63
usrn wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a good thing. There are a number of mutually exclusive positions the left and right simply don't agree on. At this point the only way to achieve peace is if like minded people moved together and the ones that don't get along separate. That goes for California as well as Florida. It's painful in the short term but everyone will be happier long term. That's why it's the "United States " and not a "homogeneous na…

I take your point, but it elides a significant cohort of the population that doesn't have the financial resources to make such a choice. The proposed redistricting eliminates black/brown districts from the current electoral map, and those populations won't have the representation they have today as a result. A lot of these folks don't have the financial means to go elsewhere, so they're on the losing end with nowhere…

That's happening everywhere on both sides though. It's unfortunate but there's no easy solution.

Re: Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

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Post by k1ko »

azemetre wrote: post #49
theropost wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, if this is really news worthy, they should be posting examples along with the agenda

I think we can all know why examples aren't being included, it's just egregious politicizing for personal gain. DeSantis wants to run for President, all these moves just improve his chances at winning the primary. What's crazy is that he only won the Governor election by very small margins. He's acting like Florida is a deep red state. It's going to backfire on him IMO.

He's got a 54% approval rating as opposed to 38% disapproval. He's also running at 58% approval among independents. Finally, he is also polling double digits against any potential Democrat challenger. Pretty clear his policies have been popular with most Floridians.
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