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The 1936-1937 Purge of Soviet Astronomers (1991)

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Re: The 1936-1937 Purge of Soviet Astronomers (1991)

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Reminds me of Lysenkoism where one mans delusions of science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism set back the discourse as it was enforced as state policy.

Cybernetics was also deemed a bourgeoisie science for a while. This changed later.

Re: The 1936-1937 Purge of Soviet Astronomers (1991)

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Reminds me of Lysenkoism where one mans delusions of science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism set back the discourse as it was enforced as state policy.

I wonder where we are now. Long shadows of Hitler and eugenics do certainly have a chilling effect on research of intelligence etc.

This article published last year in the New Yorker goes into details.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressiv...

I get the political unease that surrounds such topics, but with things like CRISPR making gene editing possible, we could improve inborn traits in living humans one day - provided that we actually know what we are doing.

Re: The 1936-1937 Purge of Soviet Astronomers (1991)

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Reminds me of Lysenkoism where one mans delusions of science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism set back the discourse as it was enforced as state policy.

I wonder where we are now. Long shadows of Hitler and eugenics do certainly have a chilling effect on research of intelligence etc. This article published last year in the New Yorker goes into details. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressiv... I get the political unease that surrounds such topics, but with things like CRISPR making gene editing possible, we could improve inborn traits in living…

Gene therapy and eugenics are different things. CRISPR falls under the former.

Re: The 1936-1937 Purge of Soviet Astronomers (1991)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder where we are now. Long shadows of Hitler and eugenics do certainly have a chilling effect on research of intelligence etc. This article published last year in the New Yorker goes into details. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/13/can-progressiv... I get the political unease that surrounds such topics, but with things like CRISPR making gene editing possible, we could improve inborn traits in living…

Gene therapy and eugenics are different things. CRISPR falls under the former.

They overlap, though. Or, more precisely, gene therapy can be used as a means to achieve certain eugenic ends.

If, in 2030 or 2050, it will be possible to use CRISPR or another newer technology to edit out detrimental alleles out of someone's DNA safely, the end effect on the genetic pool of humanity is going to be very similar to the one that eugenicists tried to achieve via more primitive means.

Re: The 1936-1937 Purge of Soviet Astronomers (1991)

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Reminds me of Lysenkoism where one mans delusions of science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism set back the discourse as it was enforced as state policy.

He was vindicated by modern science.

His "delusions" were that epigenetics exist and are heritable. (His opponents took a polar, more hardline stance that only genetic information is relevant for phenotype expression.)

See more here: https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=heritable%20epigene...

Re: The 1936-1937 Purge of Soviet Astronomers (1991)

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Reminds me of Lysenkoism where one mans delusions of science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism set back the discourse as it was enforced as state policy.

Cybernetics was also deemed a bourgeoisie science for a while. This changed later.

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