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Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Could that be down to your friends' skill at cooking eggs vs. your own?

Pretty hard to screw up scrambled eggs.

To be honest, I would also pay attention to the experience. Were you predisposed towards liking your friend's eggs? Were you having a great time? Those things matter -- haven't you ever found yourself enjoying your food because of the mood or your companions?

I think in order to make the comparison fairer, you should do a blind tasting of the two kinds of eggs at your home, in the same sitting, and under the same conditions as much as possible.

Overkill? Maybe, but also warranted, given that there are experiments out there asserting people cannot really tell the difference.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Out of curiosity, did you do a blind test yourself?

Yes, when visiting friends and not knowing the provenance of their eggs until asking after putting eggs in my mouth.

I'm sure you liked them, but that's not really a blind tasting. There are uncontrolled variables in your experiment, plus no actual comparison!

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Personally, I would not pay any attention to that whatsoever.

Please share your rationale to further the conversation. Certainly each of us are responsible for our own decisions.

Because the recommendation appears to be based on faulty and even corrupt research done over sixty years ago.

It’s too much to go into here, but you could look at the introduction to Gary Taubes’ 2020 book. It’s in the Kindle sample.

I’m 80, have eaten at least two eggs a day for twenty years, and I’m fine. Not particularly overweight and no heart issues.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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post #241

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Pretty hard to screw up scrambled eggs.

To be honest, I would also pay attention to the experience. Were you predisposed towards liking your friend's eggs? Were you having a great time? Those things matter -- haven't you ever found yourself enjoying your food because of the mood or your companions? I think in order to make the comparison fairer, you should do a blind tasting of the two kinds of eggs at your home, in the same sitting, and under the same con…

Ok, fair enough. Human perception is subject to all kinds of bias. My perception is that store bought eggs are vastly inferior to home grown. Whether that is just perception or truth matters little to me.

Store bought eggs are older, have the protective mucus coating removed, are washed with chemicals and come from chickens inundated with medication and fed the cheapest feed possible. If you think that none of those things affect flavor or texture I dont know what to say.

A fair comparison would compare home grown with non-premium eggs that most people are eating and are cost comparable. The test must also not be funded by an egg producer or supporter of big egg, if you grant calling egg factories as such.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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If you have a reason to think eggs are unhealthy, state the reason so that there can be a discussion. Eggs are as close to a miracle food that I know, and I think it would be a shame to discourage their consumption.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23676423/ egg consumption may be associated with an increased incidence of type 2 diabetes among the general population and CVD comorbidity among diabetic patients.

Huh. Diabetes is not what I expected. I looked at the discussion section;

>Accumulated epidemiologic evidence generated from this meta-analysis suggests that egg consumption is not associated with an increased risk of overall CVD, IHD, stroke, or mortality. However, compared with those who never consume eggs, those who eat 1 egg per day or more are 42% more likely to develop type 2 diabetes. Among diabetic patients, frequent egg consumers (ie, ≥ 1 egg/d) are 69% more likely to have CVD comorbidity.

>In the current meta-analysis, we observed a positive association between egg consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes. Although the findings were inconsistent, some animal studies suggested that high cholesterol feeding increased fasting plasma glucose concentrations or induced hyperinsulinemia and impaired glucose tolerance (61–63). Studies have also suggested that elevated serum cholesterol might be associated with an increased islet cholesterol content and directly induce β cell dysfunction by reducing glucose-stimulated insulin secretion (64, 65). In addition, studies have indicated that dietary cholesterol might be associated with chronic, low-grade inflammation (66, 67), which is a mechanism underlying the development of insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. Moreover, our results on egg consumption and risk of diabetes are supported by some other human studies (38–40, 68) that do not meet our inclusion criteria... Of note, the possibility cannot be completely excluded that the observed positive associations between egg consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes are explained by residual confounding from unmeasured factors, because diabetes was the secondary outcome in most included studies. Nevertheless, future studies are warranted.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Coke and Pepsi do not taste the same, and Sprite does not taste like either of them. It's not simply a matter of different amounts of sugar, they use different "natural flavors" and have different levels of carbonation. The difference in flavors is roughly similar to the difference between an IPA, a double IPA, and a cider.

My guess is that some common ingredients have such strong flavor that the other ingredients are covered. We could reliably distinguish between coke and Diet Coke though.

My mom refused to believe that I could taste the difference between caffeine-free Diet Coke and the normal Diet Coke. She was trying to get me to decaffeinate myself.

So, she made me take a blind taste test. I proved I was right and that I really could taste the difference, and she stopped trying to force me to decaffeinate myself.

She was quite surprised and unhappy that I was right and that I really could taste the difference. But to her credit, she upheld her end of the bargain.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Well, sure. Here's the thing: with anything , the dose makes the poison -- and "low levels" and "small amount" are pretty important phrases in those claims, right? ( https://wwwn.cdc.gov/TSP/MMG/MMGDetails.aspx?mmgid=216&toxid... ) People aren't talking about the amounts in apples when they're referring to e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Indonesia_food_scare

Agree. But selecting formaldehyde for your scary example mostly just sounds scary because of it’s relation with embalming fluid. As you say, anything can be poisonous: the LD50 of many substances is surprisingly high https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose#Examples From https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/19th-century-f... In 1896, desperately concerned about diseases linked to pathogens in milk, h…

Can one really say that it's "mostly" its "relation with embalming fluid" that makes it scary... in a comment containing the line "at least 30 children had died two years prior due to use of the preservative"?

Also I want to be careful not to allow lethality to be seen as coextensive with poisonousness. Non-acute effect is kind of the name of the game with additive-type doses. The bulk of the misery caused by "lead poisoning" has nothing to do with people who hit an LD50-type threshold.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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Reminds me of the studies which show that wine connoisseurs are describing the colour, not the taste, of the wine. I've always found this highly suspect because I guarantee anyone who drinks wine regularly could fairly accurately judge what price bracket a wine came from, at least within a factor of 2-3. You could mistake a $10 wine for a $15 wine or vice versa but a $50 wine is noticeably different.

That is not in line with the blind taste tests I have seen. The vast majority of people not only can't pick out the more expensive wine, they also tend to prefer the cheaper wines.

I think he's talking about wine-lovers - not the vast majority of people by a large margin.

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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My guess is that some common ingredients have such strong flavor that the other ingredients are covered. We could reliably distinguish between coke and Diet Coke though.

My mom refused to believe that I could taste the difference between caffeine-free Diet Coke and the normal Diet Coke. She was trying to get me to decaffeinate myself. So, she made me take a blind taste test. I proved I was right and that I really could taste the difference, and she stopped trying to force me to decaffeinate myself. She was quite surprised and unhappy that I was right and that I really could taste the…

It's pretty cool that you can literally taste caffeine. Is it more of a flavor or a smell?

Re: Why are some egg yolks so orange?

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My mom refused to believe that I could taste the difference between caffeine-free Diet Coke and the normal Diet Coke. She was trying to get me to decaffeinate myself. So, she made me take a blind taste test. I proved I was right and that I really could taste the difference, and she stopped trying to force me to decaffeinate myself. She was quite surprised and unhappy that I was right and that I really could taste the…

It's pretty cool that you can literally taste caffeine. Is it more of a flavor or a smell?

It was a difference in flavor. At the time, I attributed it to the decaffeination process that was used, thus causing the drink to taste different. It was a mild difference, but detectable. And I didn't like the different taste.

Thinking back on it, it could just have been that the caffeinated drinks came from a newer batch and the decaffeinated drinks came from an older batch. Or maybe they were canned in different facilities, which might be using different water.

I don't think my mom controlled for all the potentially confounding variables.

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