DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results • Hacker News Board

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by colordrops » Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

wyclif wrote: post #327

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #262

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I'm not OP, but I'll weigh in: Google - it's a really good search engine, but obviously biased and doesn't care about your privacy. I use it on my work machine. Brave Search - I'm not sure if another service (like Bing) powers their results, but it works pretty well for my personal use cases.

I switched to Brave Search and browser recently. It's based on chromium/Blink and feels a lot snappier than Firefox/Gecko.

I've tried Firefox a few times over the years and always switched back for the same reason - it didn't feel "snappy" and some things didn't render properly. Something has changed recently though. Both these issues appear to be completely gone. And now that I've got the Containers extension installed, it's superior to chromium in all material ways, except maybe the dev tools.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by BlackestNight » Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 9:52 PM UTC

Kiro wrote: post #50

Funny how the narrative on DDG has changed. I used to get downvoted to oblivion for merely mentioning they used Bing under the hood. Where are all the people that used to defend them so vigorously? I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same people now hating on them.

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Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by BlackestNight » Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 11:13 PM UTC

eimrine wrote: post #15

Who really needs a search engine nowadays? The google or ddg or whatever is just a search aggregator for making no need to open Wikipedia for searching who is Franko then open weather.com for figuring out the weather next weekend then open SO for quitting vim and so on. I can not remember when I really searched something general last time which is impossible to find via single-site search. And of course free porn vid…

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Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by colordrops » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 2:26 AM UTC

9935c101ab17a66 wrote: post #433

bavell wrote: post #409

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Hunter Biden laptop story is a good example of "right wing disinformation"... oops I meant reality!

Not sure what that has to do with anything or what point you’re trying to make.

The hunter biden laptop story was true and yet it was forcefully removed from many media outlets, more than any story I've ever seen. Glenn Greenwald was working the story and got pushed out of the organization he founded, The Intercept, because of it. There were very powerful forces aligned to blacklist the story to protect Biden's candidacy.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by colordrops » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 2:27 AM UTC

throwmeariver1 wrote: post #386

colordrops wrote: post #331

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We are talking in circles. If I'm gonna use an engine that downranks for political reasons then I might as well not use a shit one like DDG.

No you are avoiding a simple question with a nothing burger answer.

Google. It provides better results than DDG in many cases. The one case where DDG provided better results than Google was unfiltered news and opinion. That is no longer the case, so I'll use the shitty search engine which works a bit better for things like technical searches.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by richardsocher » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 6:40 AM UTC

ajyotirmay wrote: post #334

swethmandava wrote: post #227

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Try https://you.com - private and also feature rich

Same issue, youtube-dl.org doesn't show up in web results

Can you help me understand what you mean by it doesn't show up? It seems to be there like all over the place? In web, on the github app, in the reddit app results, etc.

https://you.com/search?q=download%20youtube-dl

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by richardsocher » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 6:44 AM UTC

ikt wrote: post #295

swethmandava wrote: post #194

https://you.com - no ads, great privacy and let's YOU control your sources

You have made 6 comments advertising you.com in a day? But for some reason you didn't bother to use your own search engine: https://you.com/search?q=youtube-dl&fromSearchBar=true https://yt-dl.org/ is the homepage, and you.com has the same results as https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=youtube-dl&addon=firefox&add... and https://duckduckgo.com/?q=youtube-dl&t=h_&ia=web It doesn't list the homepage...

Hey there,

It looks like it's missing that url you mentioned but, I see tons of results on how to use it, where to download it, the correct github page with details, reddit results describing how to use it, etc.?

Seems quite useful to me, no?

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by IYasha » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 9:09 AM UTC

swethmandava wrote: post #230

mastazi wrote: post #170

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Can you provide a TL;DR of the article? I'm a DDG user but open to considering alternatives, never heard of kagi and tried searX a long time ago. Currently, whenever DDG doesn't cut it, I add the !sp bang and get Google results through StartPage. I know that SP is owned by an advertising company but I still prefer them to straight up Google. I tried using searX to get proxied Google results but it required a few extr…

Checkout https://you.com - it's privacy focussed, ad-free and also supports bangs

and, unfortunately, it's zero-HTML and requires modern JS to function. :(

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Post by bduerst » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 7:05 PM UTC

iinnPP wrote: post #411

bduerst wrote: post #195

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Didn't Brave get caught inserting their own affiliate links into search results when you clicked on them?

I would rank that pretty low on my list of things to worry about a search engine doing. Actually, to me, that would be relatively fair in terms of monetization of a search engine product. I would turn the feature on if asked by a reputable and well-meaning company. Especially in the case of a search engine seeing as they are providing the link afterall.

Search engines rely on trust. Dark patterns that include shady things like exploitative URL insertions on clicking links are highly relevant.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by jfengel » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 7:57 PM UTC

Brian_K_White wrote: post #400

jfengel wrote: post #393

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You don't really get the knowledge of its existence if it's one of thirty million hits. A search engine that includes everything is a kind of Library of Babel. The info is there but it doesn't help you.

I am the only one who may say that.

And you are welcome to it. But don't be surprised that few other people also desire that service, or that no companies are rushing to provide it for you.