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Re: Hacker News Front Page Snapshot from Last Night

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Post by gbog »

chugger wrote: post #147
gbog wrote: post #87

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I didn't see anything intellectually interesting in Larry Page, Sergey Brin, etc. posts about SJ death. Maybe I'm blind... Oh, and please avoid ad personam arguments, they are useless.

No you're not blind. you're something else.

I'm stupid, that's what you think, right? So after creating a massive unisson over a dead body, we start insulting those who don't sing as loud as the others. In other thread they are asked to leave.

You show by the example that my concerns are grounded.

Re: Hacker News Front Page Snapshot from Last Night

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Post by chugger »

gbog wrote: post #161
chugger wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you're not blind. you're something else.

I'm stupid, that's what you think, right? So after creating a massive unisson over a dead body, we start insulting those who don't sing as loud as the others. In other thread they are asked to leave. You show by the example that my concerns are grounded.

I don't think you're stupid.

Re: Hacker News Front Page Snapshot from Last Night

#165

Post by mung »

gbog wrote: post #161
chugger wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you're not blind. you're something else.

I'm stupid, that's what you think, right? So after creating a massive unisson over a dead body, we start insulting those who don't sing as loud as the others. In other thread they are asked to leave. You show by the example that my concerns are grounded.

cold? clinical? inappropriate? Hey even intellectuals can grieve sometimes.

Re: Hacker News Front Page Snapshot from Last Night

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Post by jeffclark »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #154
wuster wrote: post #138

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16-year Mac user here - I wouldn't go to the extent of saying Jobs changed my life. Apple devices influenced how I got my work done, which is non-trivial, but I won't idol worship him in an emotional manner. He's still only human just like the rest of us.

So you can't feel sad for someone dying without it being idol worship? And what about those of us whose lives he directly changed, is it unfair for us to feel a greater sense of loss? In fact, it is his humanity that I respect and mourn the most: his drive to better himself and the world around him, an uncompromising vision in the face of adversity, and an unwillingness to give up.

Not being sad someone died isn't the same as being glad someone died.

Re: Hacker News Front Page Snapshot from Last Night

#168

Post by gbog »

mung wrote: post #165
gbog wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm stupid, that's what you think, right? So after creating a massive unisson over a dead body, we start insulting those who don't sing as loud as the others. In other thread they are asked to leave. You show by the example that my concerns are grounded.

cold? clinical? inappropriate? Hey even intellectuals can grieve sometimes.

Well, I would not complain on a celebrity forum that the mourning of the next star fill up the home pages, this would be inappropriate. But in hacker news, I thought we would be more immune to these usually harmless and temporary but sometime dangerous loss of reason.

Re: Hacker News Front Page Snapshot from Last Night

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Post by wuster »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #154
wuster wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

16-year Mac user here - I wouldn't go to the extent of saying Jobs changed my life. Apple devices influenced how I got my work done, which is non-trivial, but I won't idol worship him in an emotional manner. He's still only human just like the rest of us.

So you can't feel sad for someone dying without it being idol worship? And what about those of us whose lives he directly changed, is it unfair for us to feel a greater sense of loss? In fact, it is his humanity that I respect and mourn the most: his drive to better himself and the world around him, an uncompromising vision in the face of adversity, and an unwillingness to give up.

Perhaps it's a generational gap. I am under 30, so I only became familiar with Macs in the mid-90s. I can understand those of you who grew up in the late 70s - mid 80s and have much more nostalgic sentiments towards Apple and the Macintosh. It created industries and careers that didn't previously exist.

Re: Hacker News Front Page Snapshot from Last Night

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Post by pbreit »

gbog wrote: post #42
pg wrote: post #38

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No, it was organic.

And annoying. Did you consider adding a filter to increase diversity?

You're digging yourself a deeper and deeper whole. In fact, it was the right number of front-page submissions for various reasons, #1 being that it is what people submitted and voted on. #2, it was a legitimately monumental news story not merely because a pillar of our industry passed away but because he was only halfway through his career. Finally, it would be difficult to overstate the impact Steve had on the PC and consumer electronics industries. And film industry. And really the world in general.

Responding to one of your other notions, I am actually pretty confident that the web would not be at nearly the stage it is today without Steve's contributions both in popularizing graphical computing and supplying a computer programmable by a mere mortal (TBL, in this case).

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