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Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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The issue is you have built in a mechanism to prevent the site from gaining critical mass. In order for a user to check the site, there would need to be 50 posts from their friends that they can read through. For that to happen, they would need 500 friends for them to make 50 posts a week. In order to reach 500 friends, you would need 100 million users, before that the network would be empty with nothing happening. I…

I feel like you could make a similar argument against Wordle:

You can only play one game a day! How are you going to get revenue if someone can only spend a few minutes a day on it?

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

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IMHO this is doing completely the opposite of the intended effect, because the concept is focused only on pleasing the content consumers, but it completely misses the point of what the content creators need and want out of it. And without content creators you have nothing.

The influencers are the ones who post in regular periods because it's a job for them, while ordinary people post whenever they find something interesting to say/share because their motivation is purely emotional - they're looking to channel their MOMENTARY excitement or frustrations about something. It has to happen immediately or it will not happen. Limiting them to a single post per week kinda kills all the fun, because you can't share what you feel when you feel it. System forces you to postpone the reaction until the next weekend, which means it breaks this emotional cycle and the reward of venting online. This would certainly make for a higher quality of reactions, but frankly what would be the motivation for me to sit on some thoughts for a whole week and then login to this service to post a single post, and then again be forced to wait a whole week for the next chance to say something? I can see myself doing something like that only if there's some personal gain in it, so IMHO in a long-term only influencers and self-promoters would be motivated to participate.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

#343

IMHO this is doing completely the opposite of the intended effect, because the concept is focused only on pleasing the content consumers, but it completely misses the point of what the content creators need and want out of it. And without content creators you have nothing. The influencers are the ones who post in regular periods because it's a job for them, while ordinary people post whenever they find something inte…

What? Opposite of intended effect for who? Platform owners or users? Most of us, users, want to get less but more relevant information.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

#344

The issue is you have built in a mechanism to prevent the site from gaining critical mass. In order for a user to check the site, there would need to be 50 posts from their friends that they can read through. For that to happen, they would need 500 friends for them to make 50 posts a week. In order to reach 500 friends, you would need 100 million users, before that the network would be empty with nothing happening. I…

I feel like you could make a similar argument against Wordle: You can only play one game a day! How are you going to get revenue if someone can only spend a few minutes a day on it?

People can play Wordle alone and get value. Not true for a social network

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

#345

Hey everyone, OP here. I, like many others tend to waffle between loving and hating social media, so this is my take on what I think a better solution looks like. This is something I've been working on for the past couple of months and a concept that I think will be though provoking, if nothing else, to the HN community. If you want to read more on my thoughts and the story behind this, you can check out my blog post…

If it hasn't been mentioned, you should learn from the social media app Path. It limited the amount of friends you could have. As a result, people didn't add friends because they didn't want to give up a space for a potential future connection. The scarcity worked against Path. You might find the same result where people won't post because they'll be afraid of using up their allotment when they may have a better one…

The app BeReal is getting press lately. The one post a day is a photo and they solve the holding back problem by making it an impulsive post at a preset time. It’s not supposed to communicate everything you did in a day only what you are doing in the scheduled moment.

https://text.npr.org/1092814566

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

#346

Hey everyone, OP here. I, like many others tend to waffle between loving and hating social media, so this is my take on what I think a better solution looks like. This is something I've been working on for the past couple of months and a concept that I think will be though provoking, if nothing else, to the HN community. If you want to read more on my thoughts and the story behind this, you can check out my blog post…

I’ve not used your service because I don’t know anyone who’s on it and I won’t invite anyone to a new social network right away. Too many burnt fingers. So what I am sharing is my social network wish list.

Give a minimum characters/words post and same for photo posts.

Do not show amount of reshares/likes (if at all you allow that; you should not - just let people reply to posts). Definitely add minimum words limits to comments/responses. Let the low effort appreciations or disagreements propagate heart to heart.

Have an idea of a non-searchable ID (I like that from https://slowly.app/ - very similar names as well :)) that one can have - it’s unique and decently readable and completely avoids “reserve the username as a real estate” bullshit of many social networks. You have one to but it isn’t apparent it can be used that way.

And I know it may not sound reasonable or even feasible but I wouldn’t mind some kind of federation. I am slowly tending to hate the walled gardens more and more.

As a general social network it may not take off and if it doesn’t then one wouldn’t want to just post in a circle of 3.5 people (that two and half being people who just opened accounts but are not active).

Once a week seems too less and too limiting. Will the weeks when one didn’t post be accumulated to a max accumulation (and even these can’t be used more than once a day, or once in a two days maybe)?

There’s no way to delete the old posts, or I can’t see one.

Clicking start conversation shares the other person’s email and intimates an email compose. Is that intentional? Or is it pre-alpha build?

Anyway, there was an old submission https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25731419. I don’t really remember a lot from it (definitely nothing from the post) but maybe give it a look.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

#347

Social Networks should be like email providers. You choose one that fits you best, or deploy your own, without having to worry not being able to communicate with others. Maybe we are long overdue for an open standard protocol for social interactions on the web. If you come to think of it, when the personal data itself isn't the property of the company behind the social network, there should be no reason not to share…

>I can't go to slow social without all my friends coming with me, so I'm stuck with Instagram/whatsapp.

That's the problem if these new social networks have nothing to add in terms of functionality. There are many examples for come-for-the-tool-stay-for-the-network strategies that work.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

#348

For a long time, I encouraged my IRL friends to set up their personal newsletter and write once or twice a month so I can subscribe to. Quite similar to this social media idea. I think it's a very good way of getting updates from people I care about. Social media is just too noisy. The plan hasn't been working very well unfortunately.

Could I have a chat with you about this? I am working on finclout which helps irregular posters earn.

Re: Show HN: Slow Social, a social network built for friends, not influencers

#350
post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see it as more of providing a false signal of adoption or success: if people need the friction to be as little as clicking a single button to "sign up" then they're not very convinced or committed to trying something new and likely not willing to invest time actually engaging with the system; all major platforms today used tricks or first mover mechanics for engagement to keep enough people on the platform long eno…

It's really about reducing friction, not pumping up numbers. This is bootstrapped, not investor backed so there's no reason to skew the numbers. As for the candy analogy, I think that's a bit cynical if all you're critiquing is the login system without looking at the actual application. Lots of quality applications provide login via Facebook: Spotify, Notion, Airbnb, etc. It has nothing to do with the actual apps its…

Hey there. I didn't mean to insinuate that your intent was to do so - but I suppose the caution is to perhaps take that signal (# of signups) with at least a bit of a grain of salt; you likewise, as other commenters stated, could be turning off a set of demographics who want nothing to do with Facebook et al, and who may be your most passionated, motivated userbase you'd perhaps want to start off with. Pros and cons either way, it seems.

And to further clarify: I also wasn't criticizing your platform as part of my comment, I was referring to the status quo platforms - citing specifically all major platforms.

I do greatly appreciate anyone genuinely attempting to solve the problem - it's a very serious problem; obesity, literally, is a big problem in North America and growing globally (no pun intended) - and in big part is the capture of our information systems (including MSM/legacy media and platforms that have reached popularity and are ad funded/driven) by industrial complexes; with a sprinkling of foreign interests and bad actors interfering.

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