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Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by landa »

Who cares about emissions, seriously? Imagine millions of humans were being slaughtered instead of animals. I'm glad you're thinking about this, but the big problem with eating meat is not emissions, it's the suffering of millions of sentient beings.

For all others: Please go ahead and downvote this comment. You're not a lion hunting prey for food. You're just a guy buying a dead animal at a store.

As for your original question, I became a vegetarian 5 years ago and it's only had a positive impact on my health.

Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by cercatrova »

landa wrote: post #21

Who cares about emissions, seriously? Imagine millions of humans were being slaughtered instead of animals. I'm glad you're thinking about this, but the big problem with eating meat is not emissions, it's the suffering of millions of sentient beings. For all others: Please go ahead and downvote this comment. You're not a lion hunting prey for food. You're just a guy buying a dead animal at a store. As for your origin…

Why would you slaughter humans? They have more value to society than meat, such as in economic output. Non-human animals have no such utility, that's why they're used for meat. (Well, I guess draft animals have been used in farming, so that's extra utility they have, but we have industrialization for that now.)

Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by cercatrova »

annobirdy wrote: post #7

Look this isn't the answer you want but no amount of meat is ethical. A living being has to die and there's no way to justify that that doesn't lean into some kind of cop out supremacist argument. Nutritionally, it's been shown again and again that plant based diets are healthier than meat eating diets. And not just that, but there is actual science to back this up. Compare the science for plant based diets ( https:/…

> Look this isn't the answer you want but no amount of meat is ethical. A living being has to die and there's no way to justify that that doesn't lean into some kind of cop out supremacist argument.

This is contingent on your specific version of ethics, which not everyone (I'd argue most people) shares. Otherwise, barring those who have only meat to survive such as in the arctic, everyone would be vegan.

That being said, I'd be wary of an all-meat diet, OP should carefully evaluate whether they're getting all their nutrients from only meat, and not develop other issues like rhabdomyolysis.

Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by polishdude20 »

underdogadmin wrote: post #17

I did this for a month and it was great as far as feeling better. I’m someone who’s had annoying, uncomfortable psoriasis and to be honest it was already going away for about 1.5 months prior to starting carnivore. This was the only diet that I was able to stick to after 5 days of an adjustment period. Bulletproof coffee, athletic greens, vitamin d and turmeric supplements along with the meat meals usually cooked wit…

What sort of meat meals did you cook?

Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by SheinhardtWigCo »

cercatrova wrote: post #22
landa wrote: post #21

Who cares about emissions, seriously? Imagine millions of humans were being slaughtered instead of animals. I'm glad you're thinking about this, but the big problem with eating meat is not emissions, it's the suffering of millions of sentient beings. For all others: Please go ahead and downvote this comment. You're not a lion hunting prey for food. You're just a guy buying a dead animal at a store. As for your origin…

Why would you slaughter humans? They have more value to society than meat, such as in economic output. Non-human animals have no such utility, that's why they're used for meat. (Well, I guess draft animals have been used in farming, so that's extra utility they have, but we have industrialization for that now.)

I feel like I just stumbled into an Amazon executive team meeting.

Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by cercatrova »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #26
cercatrova wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you slaughter humans? They have more value to society than meat, such as in economic output. Non-human animals have no such utility, that's why they're used for meat. (Well, I guess draft animals have been used in farming, so that's extra utility they have, but we have industrialization for that now.)

I feel like I just stumbled into an Amazon executive team meeting.

I'm only being half serious, but it's true that not everyone shares the same ethical beliefs about animals as vegans do.

Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by scantis »

cercatrova wrote: post #27
SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like I just stumbled into an Amazon executive team meeting.

I'm only being half serious, but it's true that not everyone shares the same ethical beliefs about animals as vegans do.

Vegans even differ in ethical beliefs. Some of them belief animals should be spared from the cruelty of life all together and wish them all to vanish.

Some have more love for animals and just hate the cruelty of mass farming, but become ethical hunters sometimes.

Re: Ask HN: Ethics of a carnivore diet?

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Post by yesenadam »

easytiger wrote: post #9

You are starting from an assumption it is unethical barring some exceptions. That is false.

> That is false.

I and many other people believe it's true, with quite a lot of reason and evidence of all kinds, not just "This is what's always been done." Your just saying "That is false" seems merely a less polite version of "I don't agree", i.e. "You are wrong." Hopefully exchanges on HN can do better than that.

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