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DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by ajyotirmay »

qiskit wrote: post #85
Kiro wrote: post #50

Funny how the narrative on DDG has changed. I used to get downvoted to oblivion for merely mentioning they used Bing under the hood. Where are all the people that used to defend them so vigorously? I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same people now hating on them.

> I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same people now hating on them. It seems like those people are still here defending ddg. They are even attacking the blog. Weird. I use ddg as my default search and hope they are "privacy-first" as they claim ( thought I have my doubts ). At this point what other option is there? DDG search is noticably censored since they rely on bing. It's obvious to anyone who uses ddg regular…

I'm trying startpage right now. Looking for alternatives to ddg, liking it so far

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Post by ajyotirmay »

gigglesupstairs wrote: post #72
miloignis wrote: post #60

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The YouTube-DL website notably does not come up in those search results, it's their GitHub page that does. The website does appear in the sidebar, because it pulls the sidebar data from Wikipedia, and YouTube-DL's Wikipedia page does come up. Note that if you do a google search ( https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube-dl ) their website is the first result.

Both the website and the GitHub are top two results at my end, in India.

Not anymore. I'm also using it in India, the original website is no longer listed. Top result is the repo

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Post by 3np »

brewdad wrote: post #110
zionic wrote: post #95

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> So now I was wondering if DDG is getting into the tracking business Anecdotal of course, but I've been seeing more and more DDG billboards. Those things aren't cheap, and my trust in them has declined the more I see them advertise in the traditional market.

So where does one from here for everyday search? Google is out. Bing has many of the same problems as Google. Startpage blocks my VPN. Brave has always felt just a little "off" to me, but maybe they're worth a try. Any others I've missed that are worth looking into?

Set up searx and aggregate results from the ones you want (e.g. startpage you can route through a different proxy or vpn). Lets you clean out the crap and rewrite redirect urls to the original ones, etc.

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Post by cute_boi »

belter wrote: post #221
SapporoChris wrote: post #181

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories I am very interested in seeing you explain which ones have been proven true and your citing of sources.

Example A - Outrageous But False Claim's: Pizzagate -> "Debunked conspiracy theory that after Hillary Clinton's campaign email hack falsely claimed emails contained coded messages that connected several high-ranking Democratic Party officials and alleged human trafficking child sex ring" Minor But Still Serious and True Facts: Anthony Weiner was elected for New York congressional terms as Democrat politician 7 times.…

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Post by throwmeariver1 »

colordrops wrote: post #223
grapeskin wrote: post #212

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People complain about search engines like Google being full of garbage and fake info. DDG takes actions against that and people cry that it’s not fair. Are they supposed to just let governments astroturf their way to the top with propaganda?

One of the reasons I left google is precisely because they started downranking content for political reasons, just as DDG started doing.

Which search engine are you using now? I bet we will find them downranking for political reasons as well but I bet you are fine with their reasoning…

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Post by throwmeariver1 »

belter wrote: post #132
zagrebian wrote: post #87

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If Duck really collects user data, the moment this is found out, they’re dead, so for that reason alone, they probably don’t do it. The alternative is that they’re betting everything on nobody ever finding out which sounds crazy.

Lately, almost every conspiracy theory has been proven true. Or a more outrageous conspiracy theory is based on somewhat less aggravating true facts, that are then misconstrued as a more far fetched conspiracy:-)

Because there is a tiny bit of truth in something doesn’t proof the whole sentiment to be true. It’s a fallacy for everyone like you who wants to cry gotcha and run away with their hands on their ears.

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Post by wyclif »

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #262
antiframe wrote: post #240

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Which search engines are not "shit" in your estimation?

I'm not OP, but I'll weigh in: Google - it's a really good search engine, but obviously biased and doesn't care about your privacy. I use it on my work machine. Brave Search - I'm not sure if another service (like Bing) powers their results, but it works pretty well for my personal use cases.

I switched to Brave Search and browser recently. It's based on chromium/Blink and feels a lot snappier than Firefox/Gecko.

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Post by mukesh610 »

throwawaybutwhy wrote: post #101
zagrebian wrote: post #87

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If Duck really collects user data, the moment this is found out, they’re dead, so for that reason alone, they probably don’t do it. The alternative is that they’re betting everything on nobody ever finding out which sounds crazy.

A certain philosopher named Occam would suggest that the simplest explanation for nobody finding out so far is that it is three-letter agencies who might be the ultimate funders and data buyers.

I'm interested in the thought process that made you conclude that that is the simplest explanation

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Post by cinquemb »

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #262
antiframe wrote: post #240

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Which search engines are not "shit" in your estimation?

I'm not OP, but I'll weigh in: Google - it's a really good search engine, but obviously biased and doesn't care about your privacy. I use it on my work machine. Brave Search - I'm not sure if another service (like Bing) powers their results, but it works pretty well for my personal use cases.

I compile my own fork of FF for myself and my family for years, and i've switched us all to brave search for the same reasons as ` colordrops`.

`yegg` can do whatever he want's, I just want no part of it.

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Post by Jedd »

fleddr wrote: post #231
throwaway82652 wrote: post #203

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There is no political will in the US to change the copyright system. Aside from some technologists, I haven't seen anybody who actually wants that. You will anger basically everyone else in the information business. Writers, researchers, artists, architects, musicians, composers, filmmakers, actors, podcasters, even a lot of software developers, you name it. These people all depend on copyright enforcement to get pai…

Fully agree. "collateral damage" just means...why can't I just consume everything for free, as if it's some human right?

It's more nuanced than hand-waving away anyone that wants to talk about copyright reform with neo-capitalist 'everyone will choose to be a freeloader' hyperbole.

"If you could feed everyone on earth at the cost of baking one loaf and pressing a button, what would be the moral case for charging more for bread than some people could afford to pay? This represents the difficulty at which we find ourselves straining at the opening of the twenty-first century."

--- Eben Moglen, speech he gave in 2003 - refer: http://moglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/maine-speech.htm...

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