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Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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I admire Elon's accomplishments, especially with SpaceX but I wouldn't want him in charge of Twitter.

but the ideas hes mentioning seem reasonable

First of all, I don’t think they are reasonable. They’re crass and ill considered. Second of all, it’s not just about ideas, it’s about his personality.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Every company I know of that did a poison pill to prevent a takeover wound up tanking within a year or two and the shareholders wound up with sand. As a Twitter shareholder myself, the board is making a big mistake. As a legal matter, I don't understand how a board could sell shares to other shareholders at a lower price than to the entity wanting to buy shares to gain control.

Not really, as a counter argument, there is every reason to believe that Musk will make a mockery of twitter and run it into the ground. A social media platform with a lot of responsibility is not for someone as egotistical as Musk. If Zuckerberg is bad, Musk could be catastrophic.

Elon has run several companies immensely more successful than Twitter. He also planned to address some glaring issues on the platform. There is almost no question he would have been better than current management, which is destroying their platform.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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That's how the game is played. If you want to take over a company without the consent of its executives, it's going to be a fight and you're probably going to lose.

The board of a public company cannot reasonably claim that they’re worth twice(!) what the market currently values their company at simply because they feel it’s true. Unless they have advertising contracts and growth metrics in the pipeline that represent a reasonable doubling of revenue and value, they’re acting legally irresponsibly. Justifying this is difficult. This is objectively a good offer.

They will claim whatever they need to claim to justify not taking the deal. Like I said, it's how the game is played and completely standard practice. Lawsuits are also standard practice, which is why board members have insurance.

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Elon said he'd keep as many shareholders as he's legally allowed to.

And also that tesla was going private at $420 a share.

If you watch and believe his TED interview from the last couple days, there was much more going on there than meets the eye.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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from my understanding they've been going downhill for quite some time.

"I don't like it" != financial distress. From Twitter's 2021 10K: "FY 2021 Highlights Total revenue was $5.08 billion, an increase of 37%, compared to 2020." 2021 net losses were $221M, which is a big improvement on $1.135B in 2020. Honestly seems like things are really shaping up @ Twitter.

I’m actually a bit amazed they aren’t profitable yet. Hasn’t their user base been stagnant/shrinking for years? What are they investing in?

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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No it isn't. They key is that management and board are against it and the deal is still pursued by the (potential) acquirer. It is perfectly possible to initiate a conversation regarding an acquisition and this is not a hostile takeover per-se though it could develop into one. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hostiletakeover.asp

Just to clarify, that does make Musk's offer a hostile takeover bid, as is also stated in that link.

Yes it does, and this is underlined by the fact that they adopted the poison pill proposal. Though, in the past such tactics have been used just to get a better price, in investment banking 'no' doesn't really always mean 'no', it may just mean 'really, no, not at this price'. That said this is already a pretty premium and they might end up regretting that move if they really are after the money and don't have a different motivation.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

#437

Every company I know of that did a poison pill to prevent a takeover wound up tanking within a year or two and the shareholders wound up with sand. As a Twitter shareholder myself, the board is making a big mistake. As a legal matter, I don't understand how a board could sell shares to other shareholders at a lower price than to the entity wanting to buy shares to gain control.

Not really, as a counter argument, there is every reason to believe that Musk will make a mockery of twitter and run it into the ground. A social media platform with a lot of responsibility is not for someone as egotistical as Musk. If Zuckerberg is bad, Musk could be catastrophic.

“Musk will make a mockery of twitter”

how do you make a mockery of something whose only purpose is to manufacture consent for war profiteering?

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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As a shareholder and end user of the product, I agree.

you want to cash out with a 20% bump and be out of the stock during a huge tech equity downturn when the stock was over 60% higher last year?

That's your typical small shareholder in a nutshell.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

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Not really, as a counter argument, there is every reason to believe that Musk will make a mockery of twitter and run it into the ground. A social media platform with a lot of responsibility is not for someone as egotistical as Musk. If Zuckerberg is bad, Musk could be catastrophic.

Elon has run several companies immensely more successful than Twitter. He also planned to address some glaring issues on the platform. There is almost no question he would have been better than current management, which is destroying their platform.

The companies he run do very different things. I dont think there is any garuntee his success will transfer domains.

But it would certainly be interesting to watch.

Re: Twitter board adopts poison pill after Musk’s $43B bid to buy company

#440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, as a counter argument, there is every reason to believe that Musk will make a mockery of twitter and run it into the ground. A social media platform with a lot of responsibility is not for someone as egotistical as Musk. If Zuckerberg is bad, Musk could be catastrophic.

Elon has run several companies immensely more successful than Twitter. He also planned to address some glaring issues on the platform. There is almost no question he would have been better than current management, which is destroying their platform.

> Elon has run several companies immensely more successful than Twitter.

Like all things, it depends how you count. The problem I see vis a vis Twitter is it's private company and a public utility at the same time.

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