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Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by bdcravens »

chewmieser wrote: post #276
yardstick wrote: post #202

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What put you off the M1? I’m still on an Intel MBP but fear my eventual switch to an M1 will be frustrating.

I was originally planning on waiting until like M2 but ended up needing an upgrade sooner than I had hoped for both my personal (2011) and work laptops (2016) and just have to say that M1 has been awesome so far. Snappy, low power consumption, much better cooling... I was on an Intel MBP previously and everything I was using it for is supported just fine on M1. Some things require Rosetta but most big apps have updat…

> Our docker development environment was based on x64 but it was pretty trivial to add support for ARM to it.

A couple of examples I've run into that weren't trivial: Chrome on Linux doesn't support ARM (Chromium does), nor does Microsoft's SQL Server Docker image (though their Azure version of SQL Server does, and for most, it's no real difference)

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by FinalBriefing »

mateuszf wrote: post #333
yardstick wrote: post #202

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What put you off the M1? I’m still on an Intel MBP but fear my eventual switch to an M1 will be frustrating.

My guess would be Linux support if one wants to use it instead of OSX.

I've had no issues running Alpine Docker containers on an M1.

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by Beltalowda »

goosedragons wrote: post #285
Beltalowda wrote: post #173

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> Actually I dont see the point of mini PC. Theyre just desktop that you can lug without monitor and any input devices. What's the point of spending huge sums of money on a mini PC that performs 1/2.9 compared to its PC equivalent? It's cheaper for the same specs; for example this StaBook with the 5800U is €1074, but their mini-PC with the same CPU is €786: €288 cheaper! You can also put a 2.5" SSD in it next to the…

Right but you can get a faster full fat desktop for the same price that'll let you shove in 3.5" and 2.5" drives if you want, typically have higher RAM ceilings too, etc. Even in my tiny apartment the volume taken up by an ATX case isn't too much.

I don't need more RAM or drives though (these things support 64G RAM), and mini-PCs are just a lot smaller than a full desktop.

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by akvadrako »

lhl wrote: post #302
akvadrako wrote: post #224

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I agree Linux support would be ideal, but hardware quality is of first importance; many of those companies are just rebranded Clevo. Until recently I agreed about absolutely no Nvidia, though it might be improving. For a few months now the drivers support the standard Wayland interface GBM, which at least means any compositor should work with them.

I agree you want good QC, support, and product design/features, but the various Lenovos, HPs, Asus, are just ODM'd machines manufactured by Wistron, Compal, Pegatron, etc so it's not all that different except big brands pay for more exclusivity. As far as repairability goes, you'd be better off with more standard parts, and honestly, lately some of the white label chassis' like the Clevo L141MU or Tong Fang ID4H1 are…

My concerns are more with chassis quality. Having a good keyboard means having a rigid body. Many reviews of Tuxedo mention mushy keyboards. Even the keyboard on the Stellaris, which they highlight, doesn't fair well in opinions.

I agree most OEMs are bad, but the specific ASUS models I've mentioned, along with Thinkpads in general, seem to have better keyboards. Sadly Lenovo is making them worse every generation (with less travel).

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by Tagbert »

SahAssar wrote: post #200
uuyi wrote: post #186

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Err the monitor has a user replaceable power cord. I have one and removed it fine. It’s different because an IEC lead won’t fit in the design envelope. Even the stand can be replaced. The SSD is also a misnomer. The influencers couldn’t put a normal SSD in a mac and make it boot. But they don’t understand that there is integration with the crypto at hardware level. And there’s no reason to suspect that apple won’t pr…

Apple themselves say "Note: The power cord is not removable from the display." here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/studio-display/apdf106...

It is not intended to be user removable but it is certainly replaceable if damaged. What is the big deal?

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by Tagbert »

thawaya3113 wrote: post #178
yzmtf2008 wrote: post #113

Tangantially related, I remember reading the Asahi Linux wiki [0], and was shocked by this statement about Apple Silicon machines. It's fascinating that Apple has a reputation for being anti-libre, yet the hardware they built is arguably very libre-friendly. > This puts them somewhere between x86 PCs and a libre-first system like the Talos II in terms of freedom to replace firmware and boot components; while a number…

It was probably easier for them to be more libre than less during early development. This has often been the case with Apple products. Don’t worry. They will lock it down.

People have been proclaiming that for years. “Just wait, Apple will only let you install their software on their machines. It’s going to happen soon. Anytime.”

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by hobs »

elromulous wrote: post #17
jancsika wrote: post #11

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> And of course the CPU (whether you pick Intel or AMD) is full of blobs, management engine, etc. And of course it can't do fast homomorphic encryption either, so that's a hard pass here.

Just wanted to confirm / point out this is sarcasm?

Considering no one can do that in reasonable time, yes it is obvious sarcasm.

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by yencabulator »

stragies wrote: post #256
PeterisP wrote: post #101

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Having a barrel charging port is a serious flaw. I have many devices, but I expect to carry a single charger for all of them; if my laptop has a non-USB-C charger than I need a separate charger for the headphones/phone/Kindle/etc which is extra weight to carry around, extra mess and e-waste. The world has moved to a single standard for charging for all devices, we're just waiting for the "transition period" to run ou…

I like it, when both USBC charging, and BarrelJackCharging are available. So I can use the BarrelJackAdapter at home for when in "DeskMode", and only need to travel with the USB-C charger, that can also charge all my other devices. Also makes for the possibility of "Redundant Power Supply", in case you use your old Laptop as a "HomeServer".

> Also makes for the possibility of "Redundant Power Supply", in case you use your old Laptop as a "HomeServer".

Most laptops with multiple USB-C ports should be able to charge from any port.

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by ksec »

3np wrote: post #35
CaptainMarvel wrote: post #14

This is like the Framework laptop but it's a UK-based company that has been around for years, and with an explicit focus on Linux compatibility to boot. I'm surprised I haven't come across them before as I've been looking for Linux-compatible laptops for years. They do some things better than Framework such as supporting Ryzen processors, and seem a bit cheaper overall. The battery life seems like it would be better.…

> The biggest disadvantage seems to be that the screen is bog-standard 16:9. Bigger than that IMO is 14" @ 1080p. It's just too little for daily use for me. Framework are so far the only ones in this market segment who have ever marketed >1080p laptop displays AFAIK. I have a hard time understanding why there is such a lack of higher-res panel options across the market, even when seemingly all other relevant specs ar…

>I have a hard time understanding why there is such a lack of higher-res panel options across the market

There are plenty of options, just most of them aren't cheap, or fitting in targeted price range.

There isn't a lack of high-res panel in supply, but a lack of high-res panel in demand. Or in other words, no-one apart from Apple (not that Apple gave its user a choice, but let's ignore this for a moment ) manage to market Retina or high-res panel and created enough demand to sustain a different upgrade option or SKUs.

This then cycles back, without economy of scale, not just a vendor but the whole industry, high-res panel do not enjoy the unit cost reduction as standardise low -res panel ( or 1080P panel, which isn't really "low-res" ). So the cost of these specific panel are far higher, increasing BOM, increase RSP, etc. etc.

Next question that always comes after this answer is always;

>"But we have higher prices SKUs, it is not like there isn't a demand for current SKUs +$100 / 200"

Yes. But given the option to choose between paying extra $100 / $200, the market tends to flavour for more memory, faster CPU or better GPU. Not higher-res panel.

Re: StarBook 14-inch

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Post by ksec »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #225
Casteil wrote: post #207

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> Also, as a curiosity, why is every thread related to a X86 news, need to bring in the Apple M1 fan army and bang their drums? Honestly? Efficiency & battery life without sacrificing speed/performance. If you need great battery life (or simply don't want to have to worry about charging your laptop frequently), it's hard to swallow ~4-10h battery life of a typical X86 laptop when MBA/MBP are consistently achieving 10…

What use is all those perks for those of us, if the apps we use for work and play are not compiled for M1 nor web based? Meanwhile my "inferior" x86 machine can run everything I need to use. Why do people insist you need to buy a Ferrari when your work or lifestyle requires an F-150? Therefore, back to my original question, why do M1 fans need go off topic on every X86 article and spray the same things over and over…

It is not really just M1, this pattern is very specific to hardware category on HN.
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