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That's not them caring about politics, that's them not wanting a repeat of "but her emails".
It is not topics that are censored, it is behaviour
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#22This thread is amazingly good. Yishan’s observation is on the spot: All my left-wing woke friends are CONVINCED that the social media platforms uphold the white supremacist misogynistic patriarchy, and they have plenty of screenshots and evidence of times when the platform has made enforcement decisions unfairly against innocuous things they've said, and let far more egregious sexist/racist violations by the other si…
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Has it occurred to you that the use of such symbols might be a bit different when supporting change vs. supporting the status quo? No symbol already supports the status quo, so how many days have the tech corps not changed their logos etc.? Don't reject the data point just because it fails to support your preferred (which is not to say realistic) narrative.
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#23This thread is amazingly good. Yishan’s observation is on the spot: All my left-wing woke friends are CONVINCED that the social media platforms uphold the white supremacist misogynistic patriarchy, and they have plenty of screenshots and evidence of times when the platform has made enforcement decisions unfairly against innocuous things they've said, and let far more egregious sexist/racist violations by the other si…
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I'm sorry, this is just beyond parody. A perfect distillation of HN brain.
> These tech companies say they are unbiased, that they are not political, and yet they are always everywhere denouncing murder, never giving the murderers any symbolic support.
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#24It’s censorship behavior on behalf of the platform that is not applied evenly. Elon has convinced me to be a free-speech absolutist, you may not like it, I may not like it, but that’s the way it should be.
Good luck defining "evenly"! :)
I don't think Elon is going to allow Nazi spam, and he shouldn't if he wants the platform to be relevant.
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#25It’s censorship behavior on behalf of the platform that is not applied evenly. Elon has convinced me to be a free-speech absolutist, you may not like it, I may not like it, but that’s the way it should be.
Absolutism feels righteous and is simple to describe and follow (and therefore makes it easy to avoid the appearance, real or not, of hypocrisy), but it's just not realistic.
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#26It’s censorship behavior on behalf of the platform that is not applied evenly. Elon has convinced me to be a free-speech absolutist, you may not like it, I may not like it, but that’s the way it should be.
Good luck defining "evenly"! :) I don't think Elon is going to allow Nazi spam, and he shouldn't if he wants the platform to be relevant.
Absolutism implies achieving even moderation by not moderating - though even that is arguably not "even application", if one side of some issue thrives more on strategies that are harmful to conversation than the other.
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Most of what he's saying makes sense to me as well. But isn't he a rich capitalist dude, who greatly benefited from the rise of the mentioned platforms? Thus incentivizing him greatly to take the decisions motivated by money and not some imaginary neutrality or "fight the bad behaviors" concept? He mentioned this tangentially right before delving into how hard those jobs are which one absolutely doesn't have to take.…
> So to me, the whole thread is like "running social platforms and making a lot of money is tricky, because a lot of people will rightfully hate you, but you still need to make the money, so... poor Elon?" I don't think so. No, the whole thread is "running social platforms and making a lot of money is tricky, because a lot of people will rightfully hate you, so Elon should just not do it."
fair enough, but didn't Elon specifically say he didn't care about the economics of the whole endeavor? Doesn't this, essentially, underpin the whole endeavor?
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#29It puzzles me how this thread is worth flagging. Let me guess, it is not topics that are censored but behavior? There must be the right wingers who censored this /sarcasm
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> So to me, the whole thread is like "running social platforms and making a lot of money is tricky, because a lot of people will rightfully hate you, but you still need to make the money, so... poor Elon?" I don't think so. No, the whole thread is "running social platforms and making a lot of money is tricky, because a lot of people will rightfully hate you, so Elon should just not do it."
fair enough, but didn't Elon specifically say he didn't care about the economics of the whole endeavor? Doesn't this, essentially, underpin the whole endeavor?
> Doesn't this, essentially, underpin the whole endeavor?
Not really—the poster (ie, a previous CEO of Reddit) is trying to tell Elon that what he wants to do is impossible, and Elon attempting to do so will just make everyone mad at him, as well as making him completely miserable in the process. One of those "this will kill you, and it will hurt the whole time you're dying" sort of things).
I don't know if he's right or not, but I do agree that running a social media company is messy for social, not technical reasons—and brilliant engineers generally struggle with complex social dynamics. (As always, there's a relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/592/)