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DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by autoexec »

It's amazing how much collateral damage is caused by our horrible copyright laws. Mostly just so the MPA/RIAA can protect their roles as gatekeepers of what we're allowed to see and hear.

They can put enormous pressure on even the wealthiest and most powerful companies to act as copyright police on their behalf. Even Google is afraid of them. ISPs are forced to spend huge amounts of time and money working for them. Now duckduckgo is being strong armed into doing a bunch of free work for them too? Maintaining lists of websites and domains to block and removing links to even non-infringing material like youtube-dl just to keep from being sued into the ground.

I don't know what it'll take to rein in these guys, but I doubt the courts will be the ones to do it. So far courts seem fine with the idea that ISPs must permanently ban users from their service over nothing but repeated unsubstantiated claims of infringements which is an insane amount of power to give any industry.

Has any US politician ever run on a platform that includes copyright reform?

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Post by Vladimof »

thematrixturtle wrote: post #41
Vladimof wrote: post #7

Quoted post unavailable.

Google pushed the envelope on how silly the name for a major company can be, but DuckDuckGo is unlikely to ever hit mass market success with that name. (Or, more importantly, the current implementation.)

Google even gave duck.com to them, for free, I think

I used duckduckgo on and off for probably a year ... might as well use Bing if you like it

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by derekbaker783 »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #46

I've started hearing ads for DuckDuckGo on NPR, of all places. Could be completely coincidental, but I find the timing suspicious. Do you think they're gearing up for an IPO?

I think they've advertised there for a while.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by rglullis »

autoexec wrote: post #51

It's amazing how much collateral damage is caused by our horrible copyright laws. Mostly just so the MPA/RIAA can protect their roles as gatekeepers of what we're allowed to see and hear. They can put enormous pressure on even the wealthiest and most powerful companies to act as copyright police on their behalf. Even Google is afraid of them. ISPs are forced to spend huge amounts of time and money working for them. N…

Lawrence Lessig

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by Jerry2 »

cpach wrote: post #33

I don’t condone the actions of the Russian government; however: If you want better results from pirate sites, try Yandex.com. Quite good for finding torrents.

>Quite good for finding torrents.

That's because there's no DMCA law there and they're not taking down thousands upon thousands of pages like Google is forced to do every day. [1]

[1] https://www.lumendatabase.org/

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by cato_the_elder »

marpstar wrote: post #44
srvmshr wrote: post #39

Serious Question: How is the DDG search structured? Is it a cosmetic skin over Bing, or is it aggregating from other sites like Yahoo, ecosia etc additionally? If it is just Bing under the hood, how does it exist as business entity. I am sure MS will take some action to consolidate their search share rather than seeing splintered.

They aggregate from "over 400 sources" and run their own crawler: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...

That's just their corporate propaganda. For the most part, it's Bing with some additional features.

Their crawler (DuckDuckBot) doesn't have much of an impact on the search results, it's mainly used to provide instant answers. [1]

[1]: https://seirdy.one/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexe...

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by autoexec »

rglullis wrote: post #55
autoexec wrote: post #51

It's amazing how much collateral damage is caused by our horrible copyright laws. Mostly just so the MPA/RIAA can protect their roles as gatekeepers of what we're allowed to see and hear. They can put enormous pressure on even the wealthiest and most powerful companies to act as copyright police on their behalf. Even Google is afraid of them. ISPs are forced to spend huge amounts of time and money working for them. N…

Lawrence Lessig

I forgot about that! What a missed opportunity that was for this country. He's exactly the sort of person we need to see more of in politics.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by miloignis »

babypuncher wrote: post #27

What is with this blogspam? YouTube-DL comes up just fine in search results ( https://duckduckgo.com/?q=youtube-dl&t=h_&ia=web ). So does Pirate Bay ( https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pirate+bay&t=h_&ia=web ). The headline is outright false.

The YouTube-DL website notably does not come up in those search results, it's their GitHub page that does. The website does appear in the sidebar, because it pulls the sidebar data from Wikipedia, and YouTube-DL's Wikipedia page does come up.

Note that if you do a google search (https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube-dl) their website is the first result.

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