DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results • Hacker News Board

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by Flollop » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:11 PM UTC

babypuncher wrote: post #27

What is with this blogspam? YouTube-DL comes up just fine in search results ( https://duckduckgo.com/?q=youtube-dl&t=h_&ia=web ). So does Pirate Bay ( https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pirate+bay&t=h_&ia=web ). The headline is outright false.

the complaint in the article is around the serach engine's "search within site" feature.

Compare the following two:

- https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Athepiratebay.org&t=h_&ia=we...

- https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Aycombinator.com&t=h_&ia=web

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by lolinder » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:12 PM UTC

daxuak wrote: post #28

muhammadusman wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah idk why someone would type in the full URL of a site and not just the term they're looking for in a search engine...what a dumb way to test that on their part.

What if I want to search what sites have mentioned those urls?

That's still the wrong syntax.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by cpach » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:14 PM UTC

I don’t condone the actions of the Russian government; however:

If you want better results from pirate sites, try Yandex.com. Quite good for finding torrents.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by ykonstant » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:15 PM UTC

muhammadusman wrote: post #4

mdaniel wrote: post #2

As for the YouTube-DL part specifically, I'm pretty sure that's a side-effect of them being dependent upon Bing for the actual index: https://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Ayoutube-dl.org Also, _come on_; if someone gives up after one search term, which also includes advanced site-restricting syntax, there's no way they'd be able to operate youtube-dl anyway: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=youtube-dl&ia=web

Yeah idk why someone would type in the full URL of a site and not just the term they're looking for in a search engine...what a dumb way to test that on their part.

Absolutely! Why on earth would you test a dumb way of doing things on a user-facing service?! slams hand on desk Irrelevant!

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by syoc » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:16 PM UTC

nmilo wrote: post #8

Youtube-dl's site is yt-dl.org, not youtube-dl.org. Not surprised the second one doesn't show up. Not sure why this blogspam is here on HN either.

I agree that was not a high quality post from TorrenFreak. I do however also find the blogspam label to be unfair. TF has pushed some important agendas over the years.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by paxys » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:16 PM UTC

Apreche wrote: post #13

Someone should make a search engine that only indexes sites that Google and DuckDuckgo do not index. It would serve sort of the same purpose as like, lists of banned books.

This is the same line of thinking as "someone should set up an alternate social network where users don't get banned". Except that 99.9% of bans at Facebook, Twitter and the like are completely justified, and so that's what the dominant content on your new platform will be.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by rolph » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:17 PM UTC

a search using;

anyterm :: torrent

still returns alot of results for me sofar.

and so does youtube-dl;

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by nabeards » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:18 PM UTC

barnabee wrote: post #26

I don’t need these results but I don’t want to support this behaviour/trend. Can anyone recommend a decent non-Google alternative.

https://presearch.org

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by srvmshr » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:18 PM UTC

Serious Question: How is the DDG search structured? Is it a cosmetic skin over Bing, or is it aggregating from other sites like Yahoo, ecosia etc additionally?

If it is just Bing under the hood, how does it exist as business entity. I am sure MS will take some action to consolidate their search share rather than seeing splintered.

Re: DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by lolinder » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 8:19 PM UTC

barnabee wrote: post #26

I don’t need these results but I don’t want to support this behaviour/trend. Can anyone recommend a decent non-Google alternative.

I've been using Kagi (https://kagi.com) for a few months and it's been great. It's free while in beta but will be funded by subscription fees afterward.

The killer feature for me is the ability to up-rank and down-rank sites in my personal results, which has been really helpful for curating my tech-related searches. It allows me to quickly find high-quality docs and eliminate the garbage.