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Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by SnowLprd »

jbondeson wrote: post #23
jonknee wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? All it would take is for Apple to standardize the spec and all of a sudden your BlackBerry/Android using friends are on board. My SMS usage is going to plummet with just iPhones on board, but add in the others and I'm down to reminders that are sent programmatically.

The iPhone has 4-5% market share of worldwide mobile phones. Even if you could get every smart phone manufacturer to convert that still would only get you to a ~20% market share. SMS isn't going anywhere soon.

It doesn't have to go anywhere soon in order to die a slow, painful death. Moreover, it's a question of one's social circles. In my case, it hardly matters what the worldwide share looks like since nearly everyone I currently text has an iPhone.

Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by guelo »

joeguilmette wrote: post #30
guelo wrote: post #27

Does anyone know how iOS 5 runs on a 3GS? Does it bog things down?

if i had a 3GS i would wait until the next iOS update comes out unless there is a resounding "Wow!" from 3GS users.

I don't follow your logic, if there isn't a performance penalty I don't see why anyone would keep using the older OS.

Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by bluelu »

ceejayoz wrote: post #36
bluelu wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice. So now all my private messages get routed (and logged) through an US company?

And how are you imagining SMS messages work currently?

Well, I doubt that my SMS messages are routed through an external third party outside my country if I send a local SMS. I rather have my local government control who can access my information, then a US company.

Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by jreposa »

bryanh wrote: post #38

Various errors when trying to install iOS5 on my iPhone 4. I'm getting everything from error 3194 "This device is not eligible for the requested build" to a generic error 3200 "Unknown error". Coupled with some crazy Lion crashes lately, my anecdotal experience is that Apple software is not "just work[ing]".

The iOS 5 update errors are being reported as server failures on Apple. Although, I admit I'm not helping the problem. It took 20+ tries to finally get it to phone home correctly.

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/10/12/apples-ios-5-upgrade-...

Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by jbondeson »

cj wrote: post #39
jbondeson wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPhone has 4-5% market share of worldwide mobile phones. Even if you could get every smart phone manufacturer to convert that still would only get you to a ~20% market share. SMS isn't going anywhere soon.

The fact that the iPhone has a 5% market share does not mean it represents 5% of all SMS messages sent. Smartphone users text message more frequently than your grandmother with an LG handset.

I would argue that the frequency of SMS usage has very little to do with the type of phone you have, and much more to do with the demographic. There are plenty of iPhone users (such as my mother) who don't use SMS at all, and plenty of 14 year olds without smart phones (like my cousin) who text dozens of times a day.

Either way, I've never seen a breakdown of SMS usage by either category.

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Post by dmix »

guelo wrote: post #27

Does anyone know how iOS 5 runs on a 3GS? Does it bog things down?

There were benchmarks of the new 4S posted online that also showed 3GS with iOS5 outperformed iOS4.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/iphone-4s-preliminary-ben...

Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by [deleted] »

glhaynes wrote: post #22

List of things Apple is releasing today (perhaps incomplete?): iOS 5 (iPhone, iPad) Mac OS X 10.7.2 (and maybe 10.6.9?) Apple TV 4.4 Update updates to Pages, Numbers, and Keynote for iOS iPhoto 9.2 Aperture 3.2 Safari 5.1.1 (Mac, Windows) iCloud Control Panel for Windows the iCloud web apps Cards (and associated print/delivery service) Lion Recovery Update iTunes Movie Trailers app Find my Friends app AirPort Setup u…

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Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by andreiursan »

glhaynes wrote: post #22

List of things Apple is releasing today (perhaps incomplete?): iOS 5 (iPhone, iPad) Mac OS X 10.7.2 (and maybe 10.6.9?) Apple TV 4.4 Update updates to Pages, Numbers, and Keynote for iOS iPhoto 9.2 Aperture 3.2 Safari 5.1.1 (Mac, Windows) iCloud Control Panel for Windows the iCloud web apps Cards (and associated print/delivery service) Lion Recovery Update iTunes Movie Trailers app Find my Friends app AirPort Setup u…

Cry or no cry, this is one of the best days for software. Man... I waited for the iOS release for ages and now is here. I'm so happy. Apple developers, thank you!

Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by emu »

artursapek wrote: post #16
ugh wrote: post #10

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You don’t “use” iMessage and you don’t have to keep “track of” anything. If for friend has an iPhone you will automatically send her an iMessage, if not you send a text. You won’t even notice. (The “Send” button changes color. That’s all.) (Yeah, TechCrunch is exaggerating but iMessage is very clever.)

Oh okay, I misunderstood its implementation. Still though, it will definitely not be any sort of SMS killer.

It might not kill SMS itself, but it has a decent chance of killing the need for an SMS plan. If most of your text messages are free anyway, then buying a text plan starts to become a poor idea.

I haven't had a text plan on AT&T for many months, mainly because I use Beluga to send texts to my friends. iMessage is similar but much more seamless. I have saved hundreds of dollars by paying for the few text messages I still send/receive as I go.

Re: Apple’s iOS 5 Update Now Available For iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch

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Post by bryanh »

jreposa wrote: post #44
bryanh wrote: post #38

Various errors when trying to install iOS5 on my iPhone 4. I'm getting everything from error 3194 "This device is not eligible for the requested build" to a generic error 3200 "Unknown error". Coupled with some crazy Lion crashes lately, my anecdotal experience is that Apple software is not "just work[ing]".

The iOS 5 update errors are being reported as server failures on Apple. Although, I admit I'm not helping the problem. It took 20+ tries to finally get it to phone home correctly. http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/10/12/apples-ios-5-upgrade-...

Thanks for the link. I figured as much, though a more descriptive error message would have helped.
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