Ask HN: Has anyone successfully renegotiated an AWS non-compete?

Post by forty » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

MeNotLawyer wrote: post #21

forty wrote: post #15

You should better consult a lawyer than a bunch of random people if this is important for you. Or better yet: not work for a company that tries to make you sign such agreements. And especially not this one :) I don't know where you live. In my country (France) overly broad non compete are not enforceable, and also you need to be paid during the non compete period (at least 1/3 of your compensation or something like t…

I'm curious then what people do when they leave AWS. Do they just not work for 18 months?

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 4:36 PM UTC

mkl95 wrote: post #24

zrail wrote: post #5

The only time I would ever sign a noncompete like that is if it came with 18 months of severance pay. That's ludicrous.

That sums up non competes in Europe. Usually companies are required to pay 25%-75% of a former employee's salary in order to make a non compete clause enforceable.

Post by cortesoft » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 4:36 PM UTC

infogulch wrote: post #30

forty wrote: post #15

You should better consult a lawyer than a bunch of random people if this is important for you. Or better yet: not work for a company that tries to make you sign such agreements. And especially not this one :) I don't know where you live. In my country (France) overly broad non compete are not enforceable, and also you need to be paid during the non compete period (at least 1/3 of your compensation or something like t…

> [in France] you need to be paid during the non compete period (at least 1/3 of your compensation or something like this) Oh that's interesting. That is the first time I've seen a justifiable contractual consideration on the employer's side for a non-compete.

Post by atuladhar » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 4:38 PM UTC

rsstack wrote: post #26

MeNotLawyer wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious then what people do when they leave AWS. Do they just not work for 18 months?

They hope AWS won't enforce it. If you aren't very important (L7+, senior management), and you don't work on the _same exact_ project at a competitor, Amazon will probably not attempt to enforce it. Is it right that Amazon are doing this? Hell, no: they're awful for doing this. But that's not even one of the top-five awful things they do to employees.

Post by eli » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 4:40 PM UTC

rsstack wrote: post #26

MeNotLawyer wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious then what people do when they leave AWS. Do they just not work for 18 months?

They hope AWS won't enforce it. If you aren't very important (L7+, senior management), and you don't work on the _same exact_ project at a competitor, Amazon will probably not attempt to enforce it. Is it right that Amazon are doing this? Hell, no: they're awful for doing this. But that's not even one of the top-five awful things they do to employees.