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Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by ncann »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #139
bena wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also know it happens. And I'm also mostly like "Yeah, that makes sense". X: They keep banning my favorite subreddits Y: Like /r/programming? X: No, not that one Y: /r/movies? X: No Y: /r/lego? X: No Y: /r/nfl? X: No Y: Well, which ones? X: /r/letsmockminoritiesanddisabledpeople

The concern is with the subs, users (including mods), and behaviors that are miraculously exempted. For instance, reddit has a raging hardon for Sinophobia, but Asians in general aren't treated as a protected human class. Incredibly vile, vitriolic content and comments get huge acclaim as long as you frame anything Asian as being tacitly un-American. Look through the Olympic speed skater threads, or the recent "the r…

I'm not sure when it started, probably around Trump's time but the Sinophobia on reddit is becoming unbearable. Any random "China bad" thread is upvoted to the sky even with sketchy or non-existent sources, and anyone expressing skepticism or asking for source in the comment is immediately personally attacked and called names like tankie/50c army/Chinese bot/etc. Unlike HN, when it comes to politics everyone on reddit seems to immediately assume bad faith when discussing with someone who doesn't agree with your political view.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by tomatowurst »

my biggest gripe are purchased aged accounts, awards, and coordinated manipulation of opinions in r/cryptocurrency r/wallstreetbets in particular.

there's clearly pump & dump scams happening here. but its impossible to regulate and prove (VPN).

there will come a point where you just can't straight up trust what somebody says anymore on reddit, unless there's some sort of consensus...but even that can be manipulated.

if you go to regional subreddits like r/japan or r/korea, you will notice its not even natives jumping on like r/singapore, its mostly expats and surprisingly quite very prejudiced and biased. You would think people exploring other cultures to be open minded, its not in these circles, its an echo chamber for whatever demographic it represents.

all in all, reddit as a product and value is as good as 4chan. there's no defense or nuanced balanced views with active moderation like you will find on HN.

Hackernews, with its current moderation, that can possibly allow "subreddits" would be far more valuable for me. But lately I also see that HN is not immune from astroturfing and manipulation. It's not hard to see this, you have accounts that aren't active suddenly becoming activated in a particular thread (recent example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31015328) I suspect these are run by the same person trying to "win" or feels they have something to lose.

tldr: Text based, anonymous discussion platforms are problematic and rife with manipulation and unreliable trust vectors and don't see any good solutions

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by ncann »

kevincox wrote: post #70
Sahbak wrote: post #66

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I can only recommend aggressively blocking popular subs, ones that are managed by the big mods, and any that have even one political thread that gets a suspicious amount of votes. All actually becomes a source of new interesting content that way.

I tried this but quickly hit a limit on the number of subs you can block. It is fairly low, maybe a couple hundred. There are a lot more big, low quality subs than that.

Do you use RES? I don't think there is a limit with RES.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by cush »

groffee wrote: post #101

> With this latest update, for the first time in sixteen years everything on Reddit is now searchable - users, posts, communities, and now comments - making Reddit one of the first platforms with this capability. I mean this is a straight up blatant lie, every single forum/social site out there has proper search and has for years, I know all of mine do. Most of them you even have image search. So honest question, how…

Scale. Basic stops being basic at their insane scale.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by stevage »

fintechjock wrote: post #129
ahtihn wrote: post #106

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I don't understand why search is something that Reddit needs to have. Google does the job perfectly fine. Search isn't a core feature for Reddit and it's certainly not "basic" functionality.

site:www.reddit.com/r/whatever_subreddit "whatever you are searching for" Works for me every time. I haven't used Reddit search in 10 years. I'm at a loss for why anyone would want to read Reddit comments in the first place though. At least on one of the top 100 subs.

Subs like AskReddit literally are their comments. That's why you read them.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by Karunamon »

Miner49er wrote: post #133
site-packages1 wrote: post #109

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I have seen it happen through complaints reaching the all subreddit. However it only seemed to happen to subreddits that were peddling deep hatred against outgroups like people of color, overweight people, or were just vile. Your comment makes it seem like any given subreddit is in danger of quarantining, but anecdotally that doesn't seem to be the case. However, I have an open mind: would you give me an example of a…

/r/chapotraphouse wasn't any worse then say /r/conservative or /r/politics, but it got banned. /r/DarkNetMarkets. Just for discussing DNMs, AFAIK. /r/shoplifting /r/stealing /r/beertrade: for trading beers /r/gundeals for a bit. Several other gun buying subs are still banned. /r/fakeid /r/scotchswap: for trading Scotches /r/cigarmarket There's more, too.

/r/chapotraphouse was calling for death on people on the reg with the full support of their moderators. That's why they got banned.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitPoliticsSays/comments/9m30os/rc...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitPoliticsSays/comments/bmtdqb/ch...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitPoliticsSays/comments/c66x0w/1_...

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by boesboes »

fareesh wrote: post #52

Sometime around the night of the DNC primary in 2015 there was a dramatic shift in the content on Reddit. If you were a frequent visitor of the homepage and /all at the time, you will know exactly what I am referring to. The product has gone downhill ever since. Comment search is nice because it enables users to find interesting content directly in the good niche subreddits.

As someone who has been using reddit and frequenting r/all for over 10 years orso, I dont know what you are talking about. Either make you point, or just don't make such comments. They add nothing.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by liveoneggs »

tmikaeld wrote: post #43
lovelearning wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At one point, their search used LucidWorks Fusion [1], a commercial product based around Solr (that uses Lucene indexes under the hood) but also integrates a vector database and the like for semantic search. The linked wiki page still has Lucene-style queries. [1]: https://lucidworks.com/customers/reddit/

That's kind of my point, Solr and Lucene put the index in memory.

not the entire index, only what is needed for each query.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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Post by leadingthenet »

hhmc wrote: post #124
throwaway98797 wrote: post #120

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innocuous to thee but not to meee

Instead of being glib, take the challenge: name a subreddit that got quarantined that you think shouldn't have been.

/r/2balkan4you (banned, not even quarantined)
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