It is not topics that are censored, it is behaviour
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Re: It is not topics that are censored, it is behaviour
#2"A long thread on how I used to believe in Free Speech but now don't"
"Free speech changed, it was about being free to behave badly on certain topics against repressive forces in charge. Now we are in charge, so it's different"
Re: It is not topics that are censored, it is behaviour
#3What behaviour deserved censorship in this example? https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/facebook-urged-to-act-o...
Re: It is not topics that are censored, it is behaviour
#4>Both sides think the platform is institutionally biased against them.
Hilarious coming from someone who used to work at Reddit. Apart from blatantly illegal stuff, the one thing most likely to get a subreddit in trouble with Reddit's Anti-Evil Operations is allowing open debate about whether trans women are women. Even if the mods take every effort to make rules and remove posts calling for violence etc. and merely allow debate over whether or not they are women, they are guaranteed to run afoul of the AEO team. There is a subreddit I frequent that allows this, and the mods there are very transparent about when the AEO removes posts, and it is pretty much always posts about whether trans women are women (the remainder of ones that get removed by the AEO tend to be people arguing about lowering the age of consent, but the ratio of trans to aoc posts that get removed is like 10:1).
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#5>Both sides think the platform is institutionally biased against them. Hilarious coming from someone who used to work at Reddit. Apart from blatantly illegal stuff, the one thing most likely to get a subreddit in trouble with Reddit's Anti-Evil Operations is allowing open debate about whether trans women are women. Even if the mods take every effort to make rules and remove posts calling for violence etc. and merely…
Well he mentions that porn is "imagined moral degeneracy". I imagine he believes debating trans people's status is "actual violence".
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#7I wish more people could see the complexity of the world's systems, both technical and social (not comprehend it of course - just see that it exists). "Bad faith" is essentially the default tone now.
Most of what he's saying makes perfect sense to me. But people will dismiss the entire thing, pointing to weak examples ranging from individual instances of actual bad behavior to honest mistakes to tangential events of tenuous relevance to complete falsehoods.
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#8>Both sides think the platform is institutionally biased against them. Hilarious coming from someone who used to work at Reddit. Apart from blatantly illegal stuff, the one thing most likely to get a subreddit in trouble with Reddit's Anti-Evil Operations is allowing open debate about whether trans women are women. Even if the mods take every effort to make rules and remove posts calling for violence etc. and merely…
To be fair, Yishan was CEO from 2012 to 2014, and back then they did way less content moderation.
This was a time when blatantly racist subs like /r/coontown were allowed, as well as fringe subs like /r/watchpeopledie.
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#9I wish more people could see the complexity of the world's systems, both technical and social (not comprehend it of course - just see that it exists). "Bad faith" is essentially the default tone now. Most of what he's saying makes perfect sense to me. But people will dismiss the entire thing, pointing to weak examples ranging from individual instances of actual bad behavior to honest mistakes to tangential events of…
Most of what he's saying makes sense to me as well. But isn't he a rich capitalist dude, who greatly benefited from the rise of the mentioned platforms?
Thus incentivizing him greatly to take the decisions motivated by money and not some imaginary neutrality or "fight the bad behaviors" concept? He mentioned this tangentially right before delving into how hard those jobs are which one absolutely doesn't have to take.
So to me, the whole thread is like "running social platforms and making a lot of money is tricky, because a lot of people will rightfully hate you, but you still need to make the money, so... poor Elon?" I don't think so.
p.s. I would also prefer Elon to work on spaceships, cars, leaving social platforms to run for somebody else
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#10“You really want to avoid censorship on social networks? Here is the solution:
Stop arguing. Play nice. The catch: everyone has to do it at once.
I guarantee you, if you do that, there will be NO CENSORSHIP OF ANY TOPIC on any social network.”
This is a great idea. If all countries just stopped fighting there’d be no more war!