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Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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I use Reddit long term and /r/all was always bad and you should find your subreddits to care for.

I have been browsing /r/all for years, but I aggressively filter subreddits out that hold no interest for me. It allows /r/all to be semi-curated content for me, while I still will see something that breaks containment from the niche subreddits. I don't feel that this makes reddit a great news source or anything - but it does make it palatable entertainment.

I do this same thing, it has worked really well. I browse the all subreddit and aggressively block/filter subreddits that are of no interest, then smaller subreddits start bubbling up and all becomes relatively good for finding new content actually. Blocking the main default subreddits and subreddits where they just keep posting memes and all subreddits that have anything to do with gaming or new games gets you like 80% of the way there. It's nice seeing small subreddits on all after that curation.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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One of the most annoying things is to open a thread and be forced to click all over the place to see comments rolled up under each other. You can't even search comments inside a single post until you have somehow unwound everything. Thats why I use Sync for Reddit and will logout proper if they dump 3rd party clients.

'reddit enhancement suite' has an expand all button. You can then search with the regular browser search feature within the page.

Reddit without RES (also uBlock Origin) is reddit that's only 50-75% usable. Though I would also say old.reddit is infinitely superior to the newer reddit interface as well.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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I wonder to what extent this is an early step toward walling off Reddit's content from third-party search engines. They probably recognize that without a functional search they'd take a big hit in such a scenario, but with search under their own control they can better influence how people end up seeing various content.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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> With this latest update, for the first time in sixteen years everything on Reddit is now searchable - users, posts, communities, and now comments - making Reddit one of the first platforms with this capability. I mean this is a straight up blatant lie, every single forum/social site out there has proper search and has for years, I know all of mine do. Most of them you even have image search. So honest question, how…

I don't understand why search is something that Reddit needs to have. Google does the job perfectly fine. Search isn't a core feature for Reddit and it's certainly not "basic" functionality.

People have complained about the poor quality of Reddit search for as long as it has existed.

Aside from that, certainly, a site with its own indexing and awareness of its own internal structure can provide a better search experience than a third-party.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

#115

I thought you could always search comments. What am I missing?

Reddit search has been notoriously horrible since its introduction. It couldn't even search for subreddits effectively. It could never search comments for content.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

#116

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And hope it does not get quarantined then disappeared? No thanks.

This is a “razors in candy” kind of problem.

Disagree. Reddit is not a safe place for political movements, minority groups, etc, for this reason

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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post #106

> With this latest update, for the first time in sixteen years everything on Reddit is now searchable - users, posts, communities, and now comments - making Reddit one of the first platforms with this capability. I mean this is a straight up blatant lie, every single forum/social site out there has proper search and has for years, I know all of mine do. Most of them you even have image search. So honest question, how…

I don't understand why search is something that Reddit needs to have. Google does the job perfectly fine. Search isn't a core feature for Reddit and it's certainly not "basic" functionality.

Google does an okay job and certainly is the best option for searching Reddit that I'm aware of, but there are many cases where Google breaks (largely due to Reddit's site). It's common to get results that don't match anything in the content itself, but matches a title in the "more from this subreddit" section at the time Google scraped it. Dates are often wrong so adding date filters often doesn't work as expected.

Even old Reddit has the "more from this subreddit" type links now so I imagine it breaks even if you scope your query to the old domain. I noticed most of this appeared after they launched the new Reddit UI, I don't remember having this problem in the past. Note that these are problems they could likely fix so I agree, but any platform can likely build a more context aware search as well.

Disclaimer: I work at Google but don't work on search, opinions are my own, blah blah

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

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post #33

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> we reserve the right to keep data in our private archive so long as we never allow any data that you requested be removed get exposed through any public API endpoints. This is why I'm really happy to have GDPR. If this were a European company someone would eventually tear them a new one. "Reserve the right" is a cheeky choice of words for keeping data that isn't theirs against people's consent.

> "Reserve the right" is a cheeky choice of words for keeping data that isn't theirs against people's consent. How is it "your data" if you use their property (reddit.com) to post content on their website? IP and other PII I can understand, as reddit gets that no matter what interaction you do with the website, it makes sense to protect that. But as soon as I make this comment on HN, I don't really expect to "own" th…

> But as soon as I make this comment on HN, I don't really expect to "own" this comment anymore, it now belongs to news.ycombinator.com

  In Article 17, the GDPR outlines the specific circumstances under which the right to be forgotten applies. An individual has the right to have their personal data erased if:
  
  The personal data is no longer necessary for the purpose an organization originally collected or processed it.
  An organization is relying on an individual’s consent as the lawful basis for processing the data and that individual withdraws their consent.
  An organization is relying on legitimate interests as its justification for processing an individual’s data, the individual objects to this processing, and there is no overriding legitimate interest for the organization to continue with the processing.
  An organization is processing personal data for direct marketing purposes and the individual objects to this processing.
  An organization processed an individual’s personal data unlawfully.
  An organization must erase personal data in order to comply with a legal ruling or obligation.
  An organization has processed a child’s personal data to offer their information society services.
  
  However, an organization’s right to process someone’s data might override their right to be forgotten. Here are the reasons cited in the GDPR that trump the right to erasure:
  
  The data is being used to exercise the right of freedom of expression and information.
  The data is being used to comply with a legal ruling or obligation.
  The data is being used to perform a task that is being carried out in the public interest or when exercising an organization’s official authority.
  The data being processed is necessary for public health purposes and serves in the public interest.
  The data being processed is necessary to perform preventative or occupational medicine. This only applies when the data is being processed by a health professional who is subject to a legal obligation of professional secrecy.
  The data represents important information that serves the public interest, scientific research, historical research, or statistical purposes and where erasure of the data would likely to impair or halt progress towards the achievement that was the goal of the processing.
  The data is being used for the establishment of a legal defense or in the exercise of other legal claims.
Source: https://gdpr.eu/right-to-be-forgotten/

I wonder how all of this works out when you're taking public comments from someone else's forum and re-hosting them. Someone who specializes in law or even is more familiar with GDPR and related laws might be able to comment in more detail. I'm just linking the source which attempts to clarify these things, hopefully those are useful.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

#119

I wonder to what extent this is an early step toward walling off Reddit's content from third-party search engines. They probably recognize that without a functional search they'd take a big hit in such a scenario, but with search under their own control they can better influence how people end up seeing various content.

This was my first reaction too.

Re: New on Reddit: Comment search, improved search results relevance, search design

#120

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I've also been on reddit for more than 10 years and it's also never happened to me, but I know what they're talking about. Let's not pretend like it doesn't happen.

I have seen it happen through complaints reaching the all subreddit. However it only seemed to happen to subreddits that were peddling deep hatred against outgroups like people of color, overweight people, or were just vile. Your comment makes it seem like any given subreddit is in danger of quarantining, but anecdotally that doesn't seem to be the case. However, I have an open mind: would you give me an example of a…

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