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Re: Ethereum Has Issues

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>One could make the same argument for a dictatorship being superior to the rule of law. After all, you can always talk to a human to resolve your problem. I'm sorry I don't understand what you're talking about, this makes no sense. The judicial system also requires humans who are tasked with resolving the problems who you can talk to, that's literally the whole point of it. >Removing human decision making from a proc…

Your argument seems to be that there are other solutions that aren't blockchain, which I can't deny. That's true of any solution to most problems, and it neither invalidates the original proposed solution nor lessens its usefulness.

Blockchains create a completely transparent, decentralized ledger. If you don't see any novelty or potential value in that, then that's fine. As far as life is concerned, one's opinion on blockchains should probably fall pretty low on the priority list. I suspect we at least agree on that.

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>One could make the same argument for a dictatorship being superior to the rule of law. After all, you can always talk to a human to resolve your problem. I'm sorry I don't understand what you're talking about, this makes no sense. The judicial system also requires humans who are tasked with resolving the problems who you can talk to, that's literally the whole point of it. >Removing human decision making from a proc…

Your argument seems to be that there are other solutions that aren't blockchain, which I can't deny. That's true of any solution to most problems, and it neither invalidates the original proposed solution nor lessens its usefulness. Blockchains create a completely transparent, decentralized ledger. If you don't see any novelty or potential value in that, then that's fine. As far as life is concerned, one's opinion on…

>and it neither invalidates the original proposed solution nor lessens its usefulness

Yes, you're right that by itself it doesn't invalidate the proposed solution. Aside from that, blockchains are still useless and that's what invalidates it. They don't do anything meaningful. Any blockchain-based solution is useful in spite of the blockchain, not because of it. I've never seen any use of blockchains to disprove this.

>Blockchains create a completely transparent, decentralized ledger.

No they don't, in theory they could do that if everything was perfect and if we didn't have to deal with the other side effects of open trade and capitalism, but in practice they don't. Every blockchain I've seen is heavily manipulated by private interests and has serious problems with centralized control. And those are just the big L1 chains. It only gets worse when you consider side chains, a lot of those have no attempt at providing transparency or decentralization at all and it's evident they're privately controlled by one company or group.

>If you don't see any novelty or potential value in that, then that's fine.

I agree there's novelty in it, but that's about it. There's no practical value whatsoever, current or potential. They're useless. I've been pretty consistent about this for the last year. Personally I humored crypto enthusiasts for the last 10 years before this and I listened to as many of their pitches as I could, I tried to look high and low for the good in it, but it's just not there. Enough is enough. It's all bad and nothing meaningful has been accomplished. There's no practical uses of this technology. However it is a very big lightning rod for scammers and fraud.

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No, the only use case is not illegal activity. NFTs, smart contracts in general, gaming, defi/lending/staking, DEX, DAO, Filecoin/IPFS, and a few more in itself are not illegal. You may consider them to be useless, but that's not the same thing as illegal. Even if you scrap all that, there's the remaining core use case of speculation. Which in itself is also not illegal and an incredibly important use case, if not TH…

You make a case for crypto speculation as the only way for youngsters to get rich. I'd like to point out that crypto is arguably a negative-sum game, ie only some can get rich, and only at the expense of others. This is in stark contrast to equity markets as a whole.

There's no need to point out the obvious, but yes, you're right...risk.

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Without regulation, the marketplace --- any marketplace --- becomes a platform for scams and extortion. Show me a marketplace without regulation and I will show you a marketplace best avoided if possible.

That's not true at all. In theory, a perfect market will self-regulate. No one buys or sells from scammers and they are naturally outcompeted from the marketplace. However, in real world, markets aren't perfect and that's why regulation is needed, but it's up to debate. It can be argued that the market would always find a way to weed out scammers even without regulation. Over-regulation is also sub-optimal.

Re: Ethereum Has Issues

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This style of idea presentation is terrible. Block quotations long enough to be articles separated by one or two sentences of overessentialization, with no concise thesis or conclusion..

It strikes me that the author is employing deliberately excessive verbiage and appeal to authority to mask the confused nature of his core conjecture.

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This is not directly related to the content of the post but is about Ethereum. I have been putting this hypothesis out there on twitter for a while now, looking for someone to refute me, but no one has yet. This seems like a place where I might be able to find someone who understand Ethereum enough tell my grasp of the protocol is wrong (or right): Ethereum is going deflationary. Not disinflationary like Bitcoin, but…

> Not disinflationary like Bitcoin, but actually deflationary, with token burn

It's possible there's some recent development I'm not aware of so please fill in any gap here, but my understanding: Token burn is already in place since EIP1559 (base gas fees get burned now, instead of getting paid out to miners/validators. There is a separate priority fee for incentivizing inclusion in times of congestion). It will work similarly on ETH2. As laid out in EIP1559, this means that the ETH supply may be inflationary or deflationary at different times, depending on if total base fees are greater or smaller than miner/validator rewards. So it's not a given. However I could agree that given continued growth of Ethereum adoption, the deflationary hypothesis is not unlikely.

> Staking that 1 ETH just got 10% more expensive because the opportunity cost of staking that ETH increased relative to spending it.

Can you explain how this follows?

Shouldn't it be the opposite; as long as you don't require the immediate liquidity, deflation should mean that it's actually preferable to hodl, and staking rewards compound with that.

Aside from that, due to MEV, being a validator means you get reserved slots where you can [extract MEV yourself/safely submit transactions of your own without being front-run]. This is something that is today primarily taken advantage of by bigger or more proficient actors - meaning yes, this is a force towards validator consolidation. On the other hand I believe the "flashbots market" will likely become more efficient and accessible to the point where commonly used validator clients will have built-in interfaces to exploit this through an open market for privately broadcasted transactions (as mentioned in references this already is the case for ETH1). This means that over time the playing field gets leveled as getting a cut from MEV gets accessible for smaller non-professional stakers as well.

Looking at the current direction, I would agree in the sense that we're on the track for consolidation of staking power and resulting compounding centralization of ETH wealth, but not for the reasons you're stating, and I would not agree that smaller stakers are driven out by design - it works out that way despite the small-staker-incentive situation, not because of it.

Future EIPs may change the dynamics further in either direction. I don't think it seems obvious either way.

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You make a case for crypto speculation as the only way for youngsters to get rich. I'd like to point out that crypto is arguably a negative-sum game, ie only some can get rich, and only at the expense of others. This is in stark contrast to equity markets as a whole.

There's no need to point out the obvious, but yes, you're right...risk.

It's not only that it's risky. It's that by construction it can't work for everyone. You can only get rich at the expense of someone else.

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Your argument seems to be that there are other solutions that aren't blockchain, which I can't deny. That's true of any solution to most problems, and it neither invalidates the original proposed solution nor lessens its usefulness. Blockchains create a completely transparent, decentralized ledger. If you don't see any novelty or potential value in that, then that's fine. As far as life is concerned, one's opinion on…

>and it neither invalidates the original proposed solution nor lessens its usefulness Yes, you're right that by itself it doesn't invalidate the proposed solution. Aside from that, blockchains are still useless and that's what invalidates it. They don't do anything meaningful. Any blockchain-based solution is useful in spite of the blockchain, not because of it. I've never seen any use of blockchains to disprove this…

I am pretty anti-crypto generally but I feel compelled to reply to your maximalist position that there is "no practical value whatsoever, current or potential" to blockchains. The one use case I have seen for blockchain that is real is that cryptocurrency is great for moving money around the world when governments or banks maybe don't want you to do so. At the very least the experience of sending crypto is about as annoying or a little bit less annoying than sending a wire, and you can avoid all those pesky AML/KYC requirements that banks and payment processors impose.

I am not suggesting that this isn't ethically fraught -- of course it is. But one can imagine uses. I personally have known a couple people who fled Syria during the civil war, and bitcoin was a useful way to pull money out of the country, and much less dangerous than carrying a suitcase of cash.

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Ha, Flash Boys 2.0 was from 2019. This blog post is literally "I read a thing from three years ago and have lost faith in something that I never believed in in the first place". As someone who knows and has worked with all the people involved with the write-ups referenced in this blog post, I can pretty confidently say that the author is way way behind here. There have been some insane advancements in recent years th…

Can you elaborate on some of these “insane advancements”?

Flashbots gets a minor mention in the article, but it doesn't do justice to how huge the Flashbots ecosystem has gotten:

https://docs.flashbots.net

To be fair, there isn't a ton of information widely available, because talking about Flashbots in public is considered "alpha leakage". You see glimpses on Twitter, Discord, Twitch, etc though. Every once in a while someone will dump their finder code to burn alpha when they get squeezed out of some opportunity set.

People have spent years fine tuning bots looking for MEV opportunities, and they have gotten really really good. It also plays a ton into cross-bridge arbitrage, taking advantage of quirks in the interchain ecosystem to squeeze out opportunities.

Like I said, the author has dipped their big toe into the MEV rabbit hole, but it goes so, so much deeper.

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Postponed would mean the date was officially announced by one of the devs? I've not had time to pay attention much over the past months, but to me that June date was always a silly rumor. Correct me if I'm wrong. End of year is what I heard, but even that isn't set in stone of course and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen till then.

There will be a go/no-go decision on April 29 (two weeks from now) re: "doing the real thing in July". See my previous comment above.

Releasing PoS was hard enough on Cardano, can’t imagine the stress on Ethereum with so many moving parts and bad actors
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