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Re: Tell HN: Turned 44 today and I'm lost

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You need a legacy project. Something that you can work towards as "your life's work" and leave it behind. The easiest route here is to have a child. If thats not a possibility you need something grander and philanthropic. Start a non profit org that helps people. Become a mentor and pass your knowledge on to some mentees.

Having a kid is certainly the default option, but far from the easiest, mostly because it is rather difficult to spread the burden among other people who believe in your 'legacy project' (but if you have an extended family that can pitch in or you can afford to add staff to your household, that becomes less of barrier).

Re: Tell HN: Turned 44 today and I'm lost

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Stop complaining. I am the same age as you, plus or minus a year. I am homeless, destitute, and broke. No assets at all, no retirement at all. Not even a car, or even a bicycle. I don't have a bank account. I was top of my class in (engineering major at a t{1,2} uni). Failed startup, sabotaged startup, victim of crimes and false criminal accusations. Now, no wife, no future. I fight suicidal urges constantly and keep…

I'm a lot closer to your situation than the OP, and you're right, it sucks. But don't be so harsh, I'm pretty sure that if I was in the OP's shoes I'd have to deal with similar challenges.

Scrabbling after the means for survival isn't any more or less noble than scrabbling after meaning in one's life. One is merely a prerequisite for the other.

Re: Tell HN: Turned 44 today and I'm lost

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Jordan Peterson doesn’t say anything of the sort. “Work on something truly meaningful and hard.” Is a direct quote.

This begs the question, what is "truly meaningful"? Does JP have a solid answer? Not that I've seen, though the last thing I saw was a year ago now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rAqVmZwqZM . Other JP has a pretty good answer IMO. ;)

It is subjective to the creator.

What is meaningful ...to you?

Re: Tell HN: Turned 44 today and I'm lost

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> Our culture unfortunately worships youth Yes. This cult burns everything around it. The word 'wisdom' is rarely uttered, and even sounds ancient.

I'm not sure if this is not just an illusion. Young people are maybe a little more visible in meaningless parts of our society but almost all truly powerful and rich people are old. Don't fall into trap reading Forbes list and thinking that it shows any reminiscence of the actual power structure - most people is there only because they are in the business of self promotion. The real ones are those that are literally…

Well said. Just adding https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/jones-ben/htm/A... and https://hbr.org/2018/07/research-the-average-age-of-a-succes... for examples and specifics.

Re: Tell HN: Turned 44 today and I'm lost

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This is not a problem of therapy, but a question of meaning. We need meaning in live. And for a long time religion gave that. But we threw that out. We now try to get "profesional therapy help". But it hardly has any scientific backing, and no one but religion has been able (even though it fails often) been offer te give any deeper answer to the question to "whats the meaning of it all". The best solutions people lik…

The problem with religion is that the vices of hypocrisy and selfishness are rampant in the people who claim to understand it. The problem with the people without religion is that they don't understand anything and are usually just trying to grift people. Both are bad for humanity, the former actually worse because they pervert the meaning of this beautiful universe and what this life could be, if only people would g…

> The problem with the people without religion is that they don't understand anything and are usually just trying to grift people.

It is definitely possible to be a wise, insightful, compassionate and moral human being without religion.

Re: Tell HN: Turned 44 today and I'm lost

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I get messed up by the same thoughts, OP. It always lingers in the back of my mind, extra pressure that I don’t need. “You’re going to die one day, better not waste your time”, I tell myself. It may comfort you to know that I’ve been doing this to myself for my whole adult life! The only thing that makes me feel better is knowing the absolute truth on the matter: that every single person in existence is ageing at the same rate as me. One single day at a time. No one is immune to it, and we all edge towards death in lockstep. Somehow it’s comforting to know I’m not alone in mortality. I don’t want to die, or decline, but there is no way around it.

Does this all sound morbid? How old do you think I am? One year is a long time to have these thoughts linger, let alone a few decades. It’s a pathological issue, something that doesn’t have any positive effects on the way you function. My grandfather is coming up to his 80s, his wife died while they were in their 60s. His salvation has been in the form of work. He has not stopped working and has stayed active. I worked with him on construction sites, him 73 and I 21. His speed, grit, determination and directness of action made me pale in comparison. He is a rich man, and doesn’t need to labour on his own projects. He does it to beat lethargy and morbid thinking. He is slowing down, but still oversees his large commercial developments in our region.

Simplified: too much free time will give us opportunity to linger on dark thoughts. My pop is one of the calmest men I know. He doesn’t stress about things, and he is constantly active. I think it is related.

I wish you the best of luck, OP. These are difficult thoughts to grapple with. I hope you find solace.

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