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Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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> ...Russians could sabotage nuclear reactors. They use such a remote possibility as an argument against all nuclear, seemingly forgetting that:

    Germany is surrounded by other countries with nuclear power.

    Russian sabotage would be an act of war.

    If Germany is at the point where Russia is attacking its nuclear power plants, I sure hope it’s not in a position where it depends on Russian gas.

This is a deeply unserious policy direction.

Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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Being anti-nuclear is deeply engrained in the DNA of Germany's green party. Even more so than climate change. In fact, when the anti-nuclear movement started, climate change wasn't even a topic.

In other words, the only thing that needs to happen is the German green party to admit a mistake in fighting nuclear power harder than fossile fuels...

Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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> ...Russians could sabotage nuclear reactors. They use such a remote possibility as an argument against all nuclear, seemingly forgetting that: Germany is surrounded by other countries with nuclear power. Russian sabotage would be an act of war. If Germany is at the point where Russia is attacking its nuclear power plants, I sure hope it’s not in a position where it depends on Russian gas. This is a deeply unserious…

Russia recently attacked a nuclear power plant not that far from Germany, which happened to survive without serious issue. So, this isn’t meaningless speculation even if you personally don’t view it as a major issue.

In the end designing a nuclear power plant to survive shelling might not mitigate that much risk, but it is something being seriously considered in many circles.

Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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> ...Russians could sabotage nuclear reactors. They use such a remote possibility as an argument against all nuclear, seemingly forgetting that: Germany is surrounded by other countries with nuclear power. Russian sabotage would be an act of war. If Germany is at the point where Russia is attacking its nuclear power plants, I sure hope it’s not in a position where it depends on Russian gas. This is a deeply unserious…

Russia recently attacked a nuclear power plant not that far from Germany, which happened to survive without serious issue. So, this isn’t meaningless speculation even if you personally don’t view it as a major issue. In the end designing a nuclear power plant to survive shelling might not mitigate that much risk, but it is something being seriously considered in many circles.

This is pattern-matching taking the place of reasoning.

Even if you don't, I promise you Putin understands the difference between attacking a plant in Ukraine and attacking one in Germany.

Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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> ...Russians could sabotage nuclear reactors. They use such a remote possibility as an argument against all nuclear, seemingly forgetting that: Germany is surrounded by other countries with nuclear power. Russian sabotage would be an act of war. If Germany is at the point where Russia is attacking its nuclear power plants, I sure hope it’s not in a position where it depends on Russian gas. This is a deeply unserious…

Russia recently attacked a nuclear power plant not that far from Germany, which happened to survive without serious issue. So, this isn’t meaningless speculation even if you personally don’t view it as a major issue. In the end designing a nuclear power plant to survive shelling might not mitigate that much risk, but it is something being seriously considered in many circles.

It's a moot point. Attacking a german nuclear plant = nukes get shot back. And all out nuclear war.

Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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Let's be real - they just don't care about anyone but themselves.

“We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.” — Lord Palmerston

This is apt description of nearly every nation, if not all of them.

Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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> ...Russians could sabotage nuclear reactors. They use such a remote possibility as an argument against all nuclear, seemingly forgetting that: Germany is surrounded by other countries with nuclear power. Russian sabotage would be an act of war. If Germany is at the point where Russia is attacking its nuclear power plants, I sure hope it’s not in a position where it depends on Russian gas. This is a deeply unserious…

Yeah. They didn't even sabotage reactors in a country they are currently in war with.

Re: Why Germany won’t keep its nuclear plants open

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia recently attacked a nuclear power plant not that far from Germany, which happened to survive without serious issue. So, this isn’t meaningless speculation even if you personally don’t view it as a major issue. In the end designing a nuclear power plant to survive shelling might not mitigate that much risk, but it is something being seriously considered in many circles.

This is pattern-matching taking the place of reasoning. Even if you don't, I promise you Putin understands the difference between attacking a plant in Ukraine and attacking one in Germany.

Assuming war will never happen is at best wishful thinking.

At the point where people are attacking something in Germany that line becomes meaningless.

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