Ethereum Has Issues

> Their starting point was the observation that Ethereum "smart contract" execution is order-dependent within a block, unlike transaction execution in Bitcoin and similar systems: ...

First, Bitcoin runs smart contracts [1]. The lie to the contrary has seeped into almost every discussion of Bitcoin vs. Ethereum, and this author appears to have taken the bait.

Second, Bitcoin transactions are order-dependent within a block. The entire point of the Bitcoin network is to impose a global, unique order on all transactions and the only way to do that is if order within blocks matters.

I'm not sure about the rest of this article, but the failure on these two points does not inspire confidence to continue.

[1] https://wiki.bitcoinsv.io/index.php/Opcodes_used_in_Bitcoin_...

Re: Ethereum Has Issues

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Post by polyomino » Thu, Apr 14, 2022, 6:05 PM UTC

Barrera wrote: post #5

This article goes off the rails for me with this statement: > Their starting point was the observation that Ethereum "smart contract" execution is order-dependent within a block, unlike transaction execution in Bitcoin and similar systems: ... First, Bitcoin runs smart contracts [1]. The lie to the contrary has seeped into almost every discussion of Bitcoin vs. Ethereum, and this author appears to have taken the bait…

You're citing bitcoin sv? Is this a joke?

Re: Ethereum Has Issues

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Post by mmastrac » Thu, Apr 14, 2022, 6:06 PM UTC

Barrera wrote: post #5

This article goes off the rails for me with this statement: > Their starting point was the observation that Ethereum "smart contract" execution is order-dependent within a block, unlike transaction execution in Bitcoin and similar systems: ... First, Bitcoin runs smart contracts [1]. The lie to the contrary has seeped into almost every discussion of Bitcoin vs. Ethereum, and this author appears to have taken the bait…

This is an honest question as I _really_ don't know the answer, but aren't bitcoin contracts technically white-listed? The opcodes exist, yes, but you can't just create a random contract and have it work?

Re: Ethereum Has Issues

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Post by Arnavion » Thu, Apr 14, 2022, 6:11 PM UTC

polyomino wrote: post #6

Barrera wrote: post #5

This article goes off the rails for me with this statement: > Their starting point was the observation that Ethereum "smart contract" execution is order-dependent within a block, unlike transaction execution in Bitcoin and similar systems: ... First, Bitcoin runs smart contracts [1]. The lie to the contrary has seeped into almost every discussion of Bitcoin vs. Ethereum, and this author appears to have taken the bait…

You're citing bitcoin sv? Is this a joke?

Bitcoin had script opcodes before any forks, so it doesn't matter which fork they cite.

Re: Ethereum Has Issues

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Post by stale2002 » Thu, Apr 14, 2022, 6:12 PM UTC

polyomino wrote: post #6

Barrera wrote: post #5

This article goes off the rails for me with this statement: > Their starting point was the observation that Ethereum "smart contract" execution is order-dependent within a block, unlike transaction execution in Bitcoin and similar systems: ... First, Bitcoin runs smart contracts [1]. The lie to the contrary has seeped into almost every discussion of Bitcoin vs. Ethereum, and this author appears to have taken the bait…

You're citing bitcoin sv? Is this a joke?

The source is suspect for sure, but the information is true on this specific point.

Bitcoin does have smart contracts, and op codes. Thats correct, regardless of your disagreements with the source.

Re: Ethereum Has Issues

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Post by polyomino » Thu, Apr 14, 2022, 6:12 PM UTC

stale2002 wrote: post #9

polyomino wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're citing bitcoin sv? Is this a joke?

The source is suspect for sure, but the information is true on this specific point. Bitcoin does have smart contracts, and op codes. Thats correct, regardless of your disagreements with the source.

opcodes that are almost all disabled in the real bitcoin