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Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Post by delfinom »

mrtksn wrote: post #2

I don't have an opinion over the consequences for politics over this, I'm just excited over the potential shakedown of the social media landscape that I grew to despise. Musk is an activist, can make it or break it. He is absolutely right over its enormous potential, all the problems it has - as a business or ones it creates for the society - can be solved. Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial once yo…

> Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial

What?

As it stands, free speech absolutism is being weaponized by those with the money to manipulate the crap out of it. It has no benefit in a society that is driven by the highest bidder writes the rules _and now the news_.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Post by pxmpxm »

ss108 wrote: post #58

> Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial I don't think we have evidence to support this. Pursuant to the last major thread on the topic, I was thinking further about it, and realized that the vast majority of progress civilization has made has been under conditions much more regulated in terms of which ideas may propagate. We've never had a situation where fake news can and does spread the way it does t…

> We've never had a situation where fake news can and does spread the way it

This is a recycled church argument from when the Gutenberg press came around...

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Post by laichzeit0 »

RivieraKid wrote: post #45

This is terrible. A person like Elon Musk should not hold more power.

A person “like” him? What does that even mean? You mean a successful entrepreneur? Or will we instead only focus on what you believe to be any negative characteristics? Do us a favour if you reply: list what is great about people like Elon Musk, and then list what is bad about people like him please.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Post by tannerbrockwell »

"The Reporting Person intends to review his investment in the Issuer on a continuing basis. Depending on the factors discussed herein, the Reporting Person may, from time to time, acquire additional shares of Common Stock and/or retain and/or sell all or a portion of the shares of Issuer common stock held by the Reporting Person in the open market or in privately negotiated transactions, and/or may distribute the Common Stock held by the Reporting Person to other entities." [1]

[1]: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001418091/000110465...

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries don't know the value of free speech and often take it for granted. Sometimes even coming to such views as "free speech is dangerous" and that "we should limit free speech" (by blocking the views I don't like).

Understand this: limits on free speech are far more dangerous to society than allowing fringe extremists to spread their ideas. Coming from a country that had made a transition from a (rather messy) democracy to an authoritarian fascist police state in just 15 years, I tell you this: it all started with limits on the freedom of speech.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Post by qsi »

snowwrestler wrote: post #94

As a Twitter shareholder I would vote against this. Musk says there is tremendous financial potential in Twitter but then offers $54 a share, which is not even 2x the IPO price. That’s not a “tremendous potential” premium. There is a lot of evidence that platforms which de-prioritize moderation have trouble attracting revenue and experience significant compliance costs. See: the sad story of Moot, who ran one of the…

Why is the IPO price the relevant metric? In fact, I would argue that exactly because it's been such a poor investment since the IPO, the fact that he's willing to offer a premium over recent market prices is a positive. Then again, I don't own any Twitter, so my views are irrelevant in that sense.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Post by lorenzfx »

MichaelRazum wrote: post #18

Why not. Makes totally sense. Twitter gets a better image. Right now there is a real risk that something like gettr will take off.

You live in a very different world than I if for you, the associating of Twitter with Mr. Musk improves Twitters image.
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