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Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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Question regarding the recipe example. Does Google deduct quality points the more ads that are put on the website? A long time ago, I recall hearing how Google was able to beat Yahoo by focusing on quality of ads & a higher click rate. Has Google defeated it's rivals & switched to their tactics? Side note, I prefer DDG as my search but only because of the bang operators. For recipes !b added to the search lets me use…

they also store all your info

https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/qqpggk/new_youcom_pr...

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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The one thing I wish that Google offered would be the ability to blacklist sites for a period (coud be fixed - say 6 months). So damn annoying when the top search results all lead to shitty SEO-optimised sites that use a whole page to blather on and on, leading to a tiny information nugget at the end. No value, just excellent SEO scamming. As these scam artists get better and better at this, Google gets less and less…

> The one thing I wish that Google offered would be the ability to blacklist sites for a period (coud be fixed - say 6 months). I wish I could do that at Hacker News too. I really just don't want anything from medium.com.

That's a weird thought. Medium might be irritating as an interface or as a business but there are still some really interesting things written on it, no?

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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Also noticed a recent change that Google did, if I search for e.g:- Volvo XC 60, it does not show me the Volvo XC 60 page on Volvo.com, it instead shows the ad that Volvo paid for and a bunch of other ads. So they essentially don’t want you to click on the organic link that points to Volvo.com. They want Volvo to know that all the traffic to them is being sent due to the Ad and not from any organic links. This is wha…

So you would rather like to see both ad + organic result at the same time?

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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Google bought the main provider of flight information in 2010 (ITA). ITA had such a monopoly that Google was required to continue licensing their software out for years afterwards, though I think it expired in ~2016.

ITA Matrix is still available and is my preferred flight search tool. Still find the old interface much better than the new: https://oldmatrix.itasoftware.com/

it's pretty horrible, I just search my vacation destination and it doesn't have LCC Wizzair I'm flying with in Europe = useless search tool

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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Wouldn't this just be caused by Volvo committing ad spend on their own keyword? I liken it to a defense strategy. Imagine if they didn't, and a search for Volvo XC 60 showed an ad for a Subaru!

If I search for "Volvo XC 60" then there is absolutely no doubt I want to see information about that vehicle. Any information about Subaru is just irrelevant noise.

Use an ad blocker and that will solve the problem

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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I always assumed that they were getting paid. I can’t think of any reason why a spam Pinterest link has any value, yet it’s ranked high.

Pinterest has a surprisingly large userbase of people who actually like the content there. There are a lot of real world people I meet who speak highly of all the great creative ideas they get from there.

I don’t care, they are a blight on the internet that deserves to end. I have NEVER wanted to see a Pinterest board in my Google search results image or otherwise and their SEO optimisation serves only to parasitically drive traffic in order to feed their conversion funnel.

If your Pinterest board is public and you let others see it that’s nice, but the Pinterest developers should never have let that show up in my search results, your board is not and will never be more interesting than the original content you have pinned from other places on the internet, shitty aggregate pin pages hurt original content producers by ranking better and stealing page views and preventing users from navigating to the original content without jumping through hoops in the Pinterest user interface.

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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I am sure it’s plenty more than these three. Yesterday, I searched "best after-sale service of AC". What I was shown was SEO'd pure junk. Absolute junk as the first result. Next few were the same, but more focused on affiliate programs rather than providing genuine info. Down the line was Quora, where _sales rep of AC companies_ wrote answers that _theirs_ had the best service. I wad very disappointed. You.com showed…

I much prefer Kagi to Google (and DuckDuckGo et al). Often the first page of Google consists solely of SEO rubbish. Being able to block and rank domains is also useful.

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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> The one thing I wish that Google offered would be the ability to blacklist sites for a period (coud be fixed - say 6 months). I wish I could do that at Hacker News too. I really just don't want anything from medium.com.

That's a weird thought. Medium might be irritating as an interface or as a business but there are still some really interesting things written on it, no?

This is completely anecdotal but most medium (and similar platforms) that I end up on from HN are basically an A4 page of what is essentially nothingness.

This is not to say it’s not interesting, because it is, but what typically happens is that I end up in the “want to know more” state, but then don’t actually get to know more. This is not really on the medium authors, it’s more just my social media consumption taking me back to HN and then never looking into it again, but that also means that my time on the medium article was sort of wasted doesn’t it?

I can’t for the life of me remember a single medium article that had any sort of impact on me or anything I do tech wise.

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