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Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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What is “good faith” in that case though ? Some people will really not know (think kids for instance, but not only) The interesting part to me is that Google will show redirected queries from typos (“Did you mean “When did *Neil* Armstrong set foot on Mars” ?”) but not disclose the term it completely ignored. I makes it look like it parsed and validated all the search terms before coming up with the prominently displ…

> Some people will really not know (think kids for instance, but not only) It seems very improbable that a kid would ask that question without having any preconceived notion whatsoever of a person with that name famously stepping foot on an extraterrestrial body. It's overwhelmingly likely that they have the famous 1969 event in mind, and that's why Google's response is appropriate. Of course I'm not disputing that i…

How is this different from answering the query "2+22=?" with "4"? There's a factual question that was asked and the answer provided is objectively wrong. Whether the user meant to ask a different question is irrelevant. Either say "2+2=4" or say "24", but under no circumstances say "4" without noting that you've answered a different question than what was asked

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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An interesting observation is that over the years, I've sort of found that if there are not many good results, maybe I'm not asking the right questions, or I'm not thinking about the problem the right way. For example, you come up with some weird programming idea to solve a problem and no results are found -- I'm almost always headed down the wrong path. This has been proved to me over and over again as sort of a can…

Be careful. Maybe it's a useful rule of thumb, but be careful of the "searching for your keys under the light pole" problem. I worked at Google on rich content indexing for 4 years, more than a decade ago now. Google is pretty good. It used to really cater to "long tail" searches, but a combination of SEOs getting better (and specifically targeting Google) and "learn to rank" over-optimizing for the median query, mea…

I wish I could find forums with my answer instead of a multitude of websites and blogs that do not answer my query. I guess I could add 'forum' or something but when I am already searching a specific query and particular piece of hardware I don't need the first page to show me retailers of said hardware.

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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The one thing I wish that Google offered would be the ability to blacklist sites for a period (coud be fixed - say 6 months). So damn annoying when the top search results all lead to shitty SEO-optimised sites that use a whole page to blather on and on, leading to a tiny information nugget at the end. No value, just excellent SEO scamming. As these scam artists get better and better at this, Google gets less and less…

There is a programmable search feature [0] that lets you limit search to a defined list of sites. Someone did a ShowHN a few months ago where they had built a programmable search with 200ish common sites that a stereotype HN reader might like (software documentation, wikipedia, reddit, some news and other media, etc), and it was actually pretty good. I've said before, google is now basically what I'd call a "smart" p…

You're looking for https://notrashsearch.github.io/

HN comments: [Show HN: No Trash Search](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29774456)

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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That was a weird example to me. Google, although it ends up returning seo spam like w3schools, usually surfaces good SO answers, which are imo (and I think generally recognized as) the best answers that also contain discussion and caveats, if warranted. It's considered bad practice already to just cut/paste the SO answer unthinkingly. The only thing worse would be to do the same thing with whatever this search engine…

What's wrong with w3schools, never get the hate, it's an ok site, code on it seems fine.

For CSS and Javascript I've found MDN to be more comprehensive.

I do use w3schools for SQL syntax though - I haven't found any better resource for this, and generally Google gives me MSDN articles about TSQL which are usually of no use to me.

Re: Three areas where Google Search lags behind competitors: code, cooking, travel

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post #54

The one thing I wish that Google offered would be the ability to blacklist sites for a period (coud be fixed - say 6 months). So damn annoying when the top search results all lead to shitty SEO-optimised sites that use a whole page to blather on and on, leading to a tiny information nugget at the end. No value, just excellent SEO scamming. As these scam artists get better and better at this, Google gets less and less…

I always assumed that they were getting paid.

I can’t think of any reason why a spam Pinterest link has any value, yet it’s ranked high.

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