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Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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Free software wouldn't even exist as a movement if it weren't for Stallman. Linux and *BSD wouldn't exist. Emacs and gcc wouldn't exist. Stallman is the FSF and they're irrelevant without him.

BSD wouldn't exist without Stallman? Could you explain that?

I thought I had read that Stallman badgered the original dev of FreeBSD into adopting an open source license, but I can't find any references now. I probably misremembered, sorry!

Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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BSD wouldn't exist without Stallman? Could you explain that?

I thought I had read that Stallman badgered the original dev of FreeBSD into adopting an open source license, but I can't find any references now. I probably misremembered, sorry!

You may be thinking of http://techrights.org/2020/09/15/rmsf/ :

"So I asked Bostic himself. Originally, his reply was: 'It’s true. John Gillmore & Richard Stallman convinced me that opening up the sources was worthwhile, we wouldn’t have done that without their urging.'"

Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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Is FSF still relevant nowadays?

Yes they are; I think their mission is more important now than ever.

The same cannot be said for RMS however. His computing habits are so far detached from the reality of 99.9% of users that I feel he's become a caricature of himself, to say nothing of his problematic behavior that actively harms the image of the free software movement.

FSF needs to grow up and bring on a figurehead who's more broadly palatable.

Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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Is FSF still relevant nowadays?

More relevant than ever. I doubt you can find someone with a better accuracy track record than RMS. Unfortunately, the mass public, even apparently the mass HN public, simply doesn’t care until it’s too late to matter. That isn’t due to a lack of “relevance”.

Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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No, the Free Software Foundation has decided that the best person to be the public face of the movement, the best person to represent Free Software, is a walking media shitstorm known to creep on women and actively drive them away from participating with his behavior[0], who seems to spend an awful lot of words defending pedophiles on his blog, and who eats his toenails on camera. That's who they think is the best le…

Who do you think is the best leader to grow the Free Software movement?

what free software movement? Sure the skeletons of orgs still exist but everything has been co-opted by corporations. "Free Software" is just corps outsourcing of sofware creation to suckers who do it for free or for the love, or the corps that took over those projects

it held so much promise. but now open source just exists to empower capitalists with the free labor of others. It's more than a dead dream, it's grown into something inverted against itself.

Linux is everywhere and effectively dead at the same time. What's the point anymore.

Technology is just one big HR department, one big ticket system, one big pair of khakis we can all collectively wear, one big Teams call. All of it.

It was all a mistake.

Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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That article doesn't show both sides of the story. It, as well as the response, paint Stallman as a moral paragon whose flaws are just points of virtue, and dismisses criticism of him as nothing but cancel culture hysteria. It doesn't even attempt to be neutral or sympathetic when portraying the "other side."

Which article shows both sides fairly?

Read Na85's and then one I shared. You get the two sides

Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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I would think the point was to have you read an article on the other side, not to find one magic article that presents both sides.

No, the point was for the author to present their inclusion of Richard Stallman as co-author of their book as some kind of valiant effort in defense of free speech and against the cancel culture she believes unfairly maligns him. The point of the response in that article was not to provide a contrary point of view but to further defend Richard Stallman and portray his critics as enemies of free speech engaged in a wi…

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Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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No, the point was for the author to present their inclusion of Richard Stallman as co-author of their book as some kind of valiant effort in defense of free speech and against the cancel culture she believes unfairly maligns him. The point of the response in that article was not to provide a contrary point of view but to further defend Richard Stallman and portray his critics as enemies of free speech engaged in a wi…

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Re: Richard Stallman Live-Session

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>How would a 15 year old in Eastern Europe have the opportunity to perv on women in tech in the US? I never implied he would've had the opportunity. I should've elaborated, I meant a 15 year old traveling to eastern European lecture halls to blah blah blah GNU would be better than a 30 yr retired, water bucket showering, absent minded professor-like toe jam muncher.

Why specifically in Eastern Europe though?

Do you really need to think on why or do you believe they will just come out and say they are racist. The construction of even a foo would be a better bar pretty much implies that foo is in some way diminutive. Example even Gilbert Gottfried would be a better basket ball player than that
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