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U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

ionathan.ch

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Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

#282

> And the inclusion of “AMS” in the names of the entity collections likewise remained mysterious. Could this be The American Mathematical Society?

Seems plausible, but from the linked stackexchange question: https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/640588/what-is-%E2%8... > It appeared in the entity set ISOAMSA, which, regardless of the name, had no connection with the American Mathematical Society.

Thanks. I missed that.

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#283

These unicode characters feel like they were given to us from an alien species or something. How did it we end up with so many characters of unknown origin? I had no idea what it meant or was used for, thus assigned it a “descriptive name” when collating the symbols for the STIX project. (I still have no idea, nor can supply an example of the symbol in use.) […] it is the case that ISO 9573-13 existed long before eit…

>These unicode characters feel like they were given to us from an alien species or something. I worked at a large media company that had lots of differing icon sets in play across different media. These icons were in SVG and they had been optimized pretty intensely. In some cases due to a bug in one of the optimizing tools some types of bezier curves got weird, so instead of say the round headed person with their han…

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Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

#284

Dislosure: I'm not directly from the fields of the Sciences Of Angles And Ambiguously Crossing Lines nor I've every seen or used this symbol before. However to me it's, pretty evidently, supposed to be a "no right angle" symbol. (A) It's in the math section, (B) it's with angles, (C) the thunderbolt ↯ is commonly used for "not" or more specifically for dis-proof in this area and (D) at least by my 30 s internet searc…

I submit to you that it's clearly not a thunderbolt but an arrow indicating changing directions; that being overlaid on top of a pair of axes is obviously useful in the study of non-Euclidean geometry to indicate the use of wibbly-wobbly dimensions.

Particularly useful for timey-whimey relativistic analyses.

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#285
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I think, you don't get the full grasp of "early, friendly internet". Very few people do today. In my bubble - programming, for example, young people can't even imagine that there were times when you could focus on _things_ instead of writing layers of security code around them.

It makes me sad to think of all those simple little services we used to run on *NIX machines, like `finger` and `whois`. You'd never want to disclose that information now, but at the time it was quite nice to be able to see if a friend or colleague was around with a simple network query.

I dunno. Everyone fairly-publicly shares their entire friend network and what they had for lunch, now, usually under their real name.

Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

#286
It looks like someone asked for a glyph that would look like a chart with a downward trending zigzag, someone ended up getting the instructions and drew this thing, and the request proceeded bunched with other requests through the process with no one adequately challenging that the glyph really looks like what it's supposed to look like.

And yeah, actually a downward zig zag on a x/y plot glyph would be useful to have.

Like "chart with downwards trend" added to Unicode 6.0 in 2010, 25 years after "right angle with downward zig zag" was proposed and included.

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#287

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Wait what? It’s pronounced like the city in Mexico?

I've heard a lot of people pronounce it like that, but I'm pretty sure that's not correct. It's clearly the English word "wares"[1] with the S replaced with a Z, similar to "hackz" and "cheatz", which were also common in that era. I think the "wah-rez" pronunciation came from people seeing the l33tspeak and not recognizing the original word behind it. [1] A synonym for "goods" or "products". See https://www.merriam-w…

> I think the "wah-rez" pronunciation came from people seeing the l33tspeak and not recognizing the original word behind it.

I think it was explicitly luls a lot of the time. I saw "warez" spelled as "juar3z", etc, a lot.

Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Same. Never seen that symbol in my life. I've seen ¬, ~, !, etc used for not/negation in computer science, math, logic, etc. And some commenters said they used it to mark proof by contradiction, but why is there a need to mark it when you are showing it via proof? A canonical example of proof by contradiction is proving sqrt(2) is not rational. Never have I seen it marked with that symbol. Where would you even mark i…

Math degree holder from Iowa, yeah, I've seen and used it many times. The symbol is used when you reach the contradictory statement. Like "1 = 2". "By way of contradiction suppose P, then ..., thus ~P ↯. Therefore ..."

To me that reads: I throw your assumption into the GROUND!

Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

#290
post #214

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Same. Never seen that symbol in my life. I've seen ¬, ~, !, etc used for not/negation in computer science, math, logic, etc. And some commenters said they used it to mark proof by contradiction, but why is there a need to mark it when you are showing it via proof? A canonical example of proof by contradiction is proving sqrt(2) is not rational. Never have I seen it marked with that symbol. Where would you even mark i…

Math degree holder from Iowa, yeah, I've seen and used it many times. The symbol is used when you reach the contradictory statement. Like "1 = 2". "By way of contradiction suppose P, then ..., thus ~P ↯. Therefore ..."

I've actually always wanted a way to mark "the contradiction" once I've obtained it. Thanks!
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