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U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Post by bayindirh »

masklinn wrote: post #196
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of the glyphs you mention are combinatorial code points. i.e. they are multibyte characters combined to a single character. So you add a gender modifier and skin color modifier to change the appearance. You don't add multiple code points. It's your device rendering these 2-3 byte character sets as single icons/emojis.

> So you add a gender modifier and skin color modifier to change the appearance. You don't add multiple code points. FWIW that's true for the skin colors (there are 5 fitzpatrick scale modifiers, U+1F3FB to U+1F3FF), but it's not true for the gender: the basic gendered characters (e.g. U+1F468 "MAN", U+1F469 "WOMAN") were part of the original set "merged" from japanese emoji so the gender-neutral equivalent (e.g. U+1…

According to this document [0], there are "Gender Alternates", which change the gender of an Emoji. Relevant part is starting near the end of Page 2.

[0]: https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2016/16181-gender-zwj-sequences....

Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Post by themodelplumber »

esquivalience wrote: post #252
ghostoftiber wrote: post #245

(Edited to upload the image to imgur and avoid spammy advertisements). Here I'll date myself: I remember this as "diode with a gate". Back when we did circuit diagrams with stencils, you had the diode stencil which looks like a triangle with a line on top, and then with the electrical stencils you had "decorations". The intention was to put down the original symbol on the paper, move the decorations stencil over top…

That first link is a redirect spiral through multiple interstitial ads. Enjoyed the rest of the comment though!

> a redirect spiral through multiple interstitial ads

For a second I was thinking you meant this as the correct definition of the symbol, and was very surprised :-)

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Post by dwighttk »

phyzome wrote: post #89
jorvi wrote: post #55

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Sometimes people should be able to do nice things without it getting abused, no? In The Netherlands, in the nicer neighborhoods we have something called a ‘buurtbieb’ aka a ‘neighborhood libraries’, which is a weatherproof cabinet where people can put surplus books that other people in the neighborhood can borrow. Of course you could take all the books or use the cabinet to store candy, but why would you?

Usually called Little Free Libraries in the US. (The name is a little weird, because regular libraries are also free...)

I always took it to mean “no really this is free, take a book!”

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Post by jholman »

blowski wrote: post #257
jholman wrote: post #233

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It's not a synonym for "goods", because only one type of thing was ever "wares"; software. It's just for dividing up the sections of your piracy BBS into, like "filez" (files, multi-kilobyte textfiles full of instructions on how to make bombs etc), "imagez", "warez", etc. Anyway, by 1990, in the piracy circles I distantly associated with, it was quite common to pronounce it like "juarez". Sort of semi-ironically, lik…

> It's not a synonym for "goods", because only one type of thing was ever "wares"; software. It's just for dividing up the sections of your piracy BBS into, like "filez" (files, multi-kilobyte textfiles full of instructions on how to make bombs etc), "imagez", "warez", etc. Citation needed there. I have always assumed it came from fleamarkets where people selling pirated VHS films and knock-off Rolexes would be descr…

Okay, so my citation is, I was there, I was a (fringe) participant in pre-internet piracy culture, starting in 1990.

Pirate BBSes would have various "goods" (in the sense you and GP mean) available for download, including images (hint: some of them may have involve ladies), text files, and software. Sometimes there would also be sections for various art media created by users, such as .mods or ASCII art or poetry or whatever. Those various "goods" would never be all slopped together, they'd be divided into categories. And the category called "warez" would never, ever, have anything in it other than pirated software.

I agree that the s-to-z thing is just classic hacker/leet culture, though it's not internet culture, because it predates the people in question having internet access. I'm saying that the "wares" that becomes "warez" is not "wares-as-in-goods", it's "wares-as-in-softwares". It's pluralized even though "software" is a non-count noun, because then it fits with "files", "images", and so on. And yes, ultimately the "-ware" in "software" is from the sense that you and GP are talking about; I'm saying that the etymology is not directly from there, because otherwise all the other kinds of pirated stuff would also be "warez", and it never, ever, was.

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Post by mywittyname »

IshKebab wrote: post #182
firstcommentyo wrote: post #160

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High school physics and math as a major. I could scan you my scripts and papers if you're interested.....no won't. ;-D But maybe "commonly used" was maybe the wrong term. More appropriately: "sometimes" or "by some".

I have never seen it used as not once in maths or physics. "extremely rarely" perhaps.

To be fair, there are lot of math symbols out there.

http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/ctan/info/symbols/comprehensive/sy...

There are lots of examples of the lightning bolt in there. In fact, under ulsy Contradiction symbols, there are four variants.

I also noticed the exact symbol being discussed is listed under "Angles".

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Post by esquivalience »

themodelplumber wrote: post #262
esquivalience wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That first link is a redirect spiral through multiple interstitial ads. Enjoyed the rest of the comment though!

> a redirect spiral through multiple interstitial ads For a second I was thinking you meant this as the correct definition of the symbol, and was very surprised :-)

That is horribly plausible!

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Post by logbiscuitswave »

paledot wrote: post #250
kens wrote: post #222

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I've thought that it would be cool to have a Wiki with an entry for each character, describing what it is, and its history. Although that wouldn't help for mystery characters like this one, there are a lot of characters with stories behind them.

I was just discussing :man-in-business-suit-levitating: with some friends earlier today. Also an interestingly cryptic background, albeit not an unsolved one. https://emojipedia.org/person-in-suit-levitating/ (Edit: Apparently HN automatically removes emoji.)

The story behind MIBSL is definitely fascinating and some great trivia there. There’s a longer article about it here: https://www.newsweek.com/2016/05/06/secret-ska-history-man-b... that covers not just the inspiration for the emoji itself, but a brief history behind the inspiration behind the inspiration. Lots of levels of metaness to unpack.

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Post by layer8 »

albrewer wrote: post #208
tarsinge wrote: post #76

And still no external link character, ridiculous.

Hm, now that you mention it, I always thought of the external link symbol as being a box with an arrow coming from inside it and protruding out of the upper right hand corner, but I don't see that symbol anywhere in Unicode, and I'm not sure why I have that association. There is the U+1F517 link symbol but I'm not sure that's communicating the same thing.

> I'm not sure why I have that association.

Wikipedia uses it.

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